[Dissent-bristol-info] RE: Info 4 Action day updates / action

Fri Feb 18 00:49:11 GMT 2005

John & all - don't wanna get into a row over this as it's important we
work comfortably together on this event (more involvement & input from
others would of course be helpful in the planning process!). We may have
had different perceptions, but I'm sure they can be sorted!!

My point/concern tho is that the speakers in the first session are
effectively 'keynote' and will set the tone for the day. If you & 606 are
comfortable with her anti-capitalism that's good enough for me.

Still no comeback from schnews-types, and am sorely tempted to tell em we
are sorted. We do tho need to discuss/clarify the 'opening session' -
other speaker(s), facilitator etc. As a suggestion: start with a Bristol
Dissenter on the local group & aims/national aims; follow with
anti-capitalist; end with speaker on outline/practicalities for the day.
Plus a 'chair'. Ideally 2 male/2 female.

Was also thinking about name for the day - how about 'Info-sharing for
Action'? Makes it more horizontal/participatory.

would also suggest not publicising names of speakers beforehand (no
leaders/heros!), tho list em in programme on the day?

plus we need to think about what we wanna achieve from our visit to MX on
Monday.
Comments?
AG
PS: if anyone else wants to minute/do the resume of next info sub-group
meet they are very, very, very welcome - March 1st, 6 - 8pm(?), Kebele.

> My understanding is that Usma is an anti-capitalist and not a state
> socialist - on that basis I'm more than happy to have her talk as
> part of the opening session - to more disparate voices from within
> the broader movement we get, the better, IMHO.
>
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:24:37 -0800 John Mayford <john at avoncda.coop>
> wrote:
>>Hello All
>>
>>I think your email highlights a lack of clarity in our process
>>and we need to tighten that up as we clearly left the meeting
>>with different perceptions of what was agreed.
>>Me memory was a local Bristol Dissent person and an outside person
>
>>multicultural and the breif
>>was Anti Capitalist, Why They are opposed to the G8 without
>>necessarily being part of Dissent
>>Thats the basis on which I have approached Usma with the consent
>>of the meeting after a discussion
>>about Tom's ideas about approaching Turkish contacts. However I
>>also remember that you were still
>>purusing Schnews and there had been discussion around Rob Newman.
>>
>>So clear it up at the info group and maybe tighten our process up
>>a bit.
>>
>>Still aint heard from Justin Alexander and in pursuit of African
>>Initaitives but should get resolution
>>soon I hope .
>>
>>21st Visit to the MX is still on and Lizzie is coming- they have
>>sent a form through so we can pay deposit. I can
>>call Fri Pm . Mon Am to give them a reminder -
>>
>>Will put film update on the list after work
>>
>>Ta for now
>>John
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: auto_gnome at riseup.net [mailto:auto_gnome at riseup.net]
>>Sent: 17 February 2005 00:07
>>To: Bristol Dissent Research & Info
>>Cc: 1984 at resist.ca; fleasofshaymus at yahoo.co.uk
>>Subject: [Dissent-bristol-info] RE: Info 4 Action day updates /
>>action
>>
>>
>>Hi
>>Still waiting for schnews to come back re opening session. Can
>>John
>>clarify exactly what Usma may be speaking on if we agree, and
>>where she's
>>coming from? Original thinking was speakers on 'Dissent'(generally
>
>>&
>>Bristol?) and why we're anti-capitalist/what it means (see text on
>
>>Dissent
>>website). May need to hold on this til we meet & decide at next
>>Info meet
>>on 1 March.
>>
>>John - what happened to the Jubilee person (sorry forgot name).
>>
>>Have chased London Rising tide, hope for feedback by end week. If
>>no go we
>>ask local person (Crash).
>>
>>Main concern is the no borders/asylum presentation. Asked Ollie to
>
>>raise
>>with CSC - has he??? Also now have a phone & email contact for
>>Josh, who
>>wrote extensively on the recent bristol Columbian deportation case
>
>>- but
>>have CSC contacted him?
>>
>>Other unknown is Kiptik on the Zapatista uprising. Will chase Ben
>>regards
>>this.
>>
>>Lastly - draft publicity to take to Dissent meet on 22 Feb - has
>>Paul/Jon
>>made any progress with posters? I think 606 has some ideas.
>>
>>Is the visit to MX still ok for Mon 21st at 1pm? Be good to have a
>>catering rep there. Perhaps we should invite others who are
>>interested -
>>maybe put the visit on the general list?
>>
>>We have 6 and half weeks from 22 Feb to the info4action day....
>>AG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Updates on last meet
>>>
>>> Usma has agreed to speak for ten minutes at the beggining of the
>
>>dissent
>>> dayschool
>>> and share the workshop with Jo on Iraq: If we want her to do so.
>>> My memory was that we came to a mix of local / and outside
>>speaker: No
>>> flights from Turkey
>>> necessary
>>>
>>> Last thing for me to do now is finalise the Developing Nation
>>debt
>>> workshop: still
>>> chasing African Initiatives  -
>>>
>>> Any  update on Schnews ?
>>>
>>> Re: Film ; meet in the Chelsea is tonight at 6 - will put out
>>general
>>> invte after: had problems
>>> accessing the internet this week or would have made it more
>>general
>>> earlier. Will do for hte follow up
>>>
>>> Any feedback - updates folks?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Mayford
>>> Sent: 10 February 2005 09:23
>>> To: Bristol Dissent Research & Info
>>> Subject: RE: [Dissent-bristol-info] Action points - from meet on
>
>>8/2/05
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I have a contact for Uzma - an anti capitalist British Pakistani
>
>>muslim
>>> woman
>>> with an Iraqi husband - spent some time in Iraq recently. Want
>>to apptoach
>>> to
>>> do the address at the top of the dayschool. - If shes up for it
>>she can
>>> stay at
>>> mine and will help Jo with the Iraq workshop
>>>
>>> Re Chldminders I dont think there was a definative line from
>>that meeting
>>> - tho my impression
>>> was that we were generally in favour of the idea. If so
>>>  - I can book Safi + 1 ( she works at Felix Road and is
>>multulingual) and
>>> the space - as you say
>>> in the notes needs support. It would benefit someone to co-
>>ordinate the
>>> space - set
>>> up a rota or something to support the childminders.
>>>
>>> Also re publicity - we mentioned to try and translate into
>>Somali, Urdu,
>>> Gurujanti,
>>> Arabic and Kurdish - via Tom contact
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: auto_gnome at riseup.net [mailto:auto_gnome at riseup.net]
>>> Sent: 10 February 2005 00:11
>>> To: Bristol Dissent Research & Info
>>> Subject: [Dissent-bristol-info] Action points - from meet on
>>8/2/05
>>>
>>>
>>> Resume: Info/research sub-group meet 8/2/05
>>>
>>> 1. Factsheets
>>>
>>> Climate change - draft done. Tom to edit/proof.
>>>
>>> Sustainable Development - draft done, Tom to finalise & put text
>
>>on list.
>>> Tim to edit/proof.
>>>
>>> IMF/WB/WTO - draft done. Tom to edit/proof, removing weblinks
>>after each
>>> para but adding links at end. Combine into one factsheet.
>>>
>>> PFI - draft done. Ollie to finalise & put text on list. Tim to
>>edit/proof.
>>>
>>> Africa debt/poverty - Tim to do draft & put on list.
>>>
>>> Edited/proofed final versions to go on list. Paul to then dtp in
>
>>a basic
>>> format, 2 sides A4, that can be photocopied up. Standard format:
>
>>'Bristol
>>> Dissent group - introduction to...'; plus Bristol contact
>>details.
>>>
>>> Need an image/graphic for each - please provide something
>>photocopyable.
>>> Tif's preferred.
>>>
>>> 2. Film
>>> John proceeding. Holding an informal meet 16 Feb - info to go on
>
>>list.
>>>
>>> 3. Info for Action day, 9 April
>>> Venue visit 21/2/05 @ 1pm. Caterer rep & other interested
>>parties to meet
>>> up at Venue for a look around, see what we need, what can go
>>where etc.
>>> Catering - Kebele (Liz) to do. Need volunteers - chase.
>>> Kids - see what space there is for interactive kids space. Need
>>people to
>>> run it. Each child will need responsible adult with em. Possible
>
>>need for
>>> a few 'registered' childminder types. Who?
>>> Publicity - posters: Paul to layout, giving basic info on day.
>>To ask Jon
>>> to help with images. Have several different posters. Bring
>>drafts to 22
>>> Feb meet. Need to be photocpyable.
>>> Flyers - maybe go for something glossy. Ideas people?
>>> Ask general meet for a budget for publicity. 100 quid?
>>>
>>> Facilitators for opening/closing session - be good to have at
>>least one
>>> woman for both. Ask meeting for volunteers.
>>>
>>> Workshops - update below:
>>> Opening session - waiting to hear back from Schnews types, need
>>speaker
>>> from group too, plus maybe other anti-cap local speaker(?) - Tim
>
>>- John
>>> Alternatives to capitalism - ok, involve Kebele - John
>>> Art resistance - ok (Martin) - Tim
>>> Our media - ok, involve Bristle (Steve) - Tom
>>> Africa - chasing Jubilee speaker & maybe A/Initiatives - John
>>> Iraq - ok - John.
>>> Zapatistas - chasing (Ben) - Tim
>>> No borders/asylum - chasing (Josh/CSC - Ollie) - Tim
>>> ClownCIRCA - ok (Hil) - Tim
>>> DA - ok (Ben)
>>> Climate change - chasing R/tide, have back-up if needed - Tim
>>>
>>> Provide written update on the event to next general meet after
>>venue visit
>>> (Tim).
>>>
>>> Next sub-group meet - Tue 1 March @ 6pm, Kebele.
>>>
>>>
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