[g8-sheffield] Penned in? Lets make something of it

[Jonny Rimes]

Just wondering if anyone is prepared to challenge the
bad in court? We have the right to do so citing the
human rights act. The police/local council/home office
would have to provide evidence that the proposed march
would likely cause a )serious public disorder b)
serious damage to property or c) serious disruption to
the life of the community.

I'm not sure if its been done before but the courts
have ruled in favour of protests on certain occasions
in the past, it may be possible to overturn a blanket
ban on protests.

--- Helen and Nick <slendermeans1 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> If dev green is the only option then lets try to use
> the space proactively rather than being caught out
> by
> it and depressed by it and make it a more positive
> experience for people for whom this might their
> first
> steps towards action. We long suspected that we
> would
> be derby mark II
> 
> Having a masked carnival party/ball might worth it -
> soundsystem, samba. Carnival masks on mass to hide
> our
> ID and defy ID, noise so we are not silent If all
> else
> fails...party!!!!????? 
> Hx
> --- fabian <fab at in-no.org> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Am 24.05.2005 um 01:44 schrieb Jillian Creasy:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > 
> > > The police have told me today that they will not
> > allow any kind 
> > > of march in the city centre during the
> > afternoon/evenings of the G8 
> > > visit. In fact they won't allow any sort of
> > gathering at all - they 
> > > are using "delegated powers" to stop groups of
> two
> > or more people. I 
> > > tried to ask where the general public would be
> > allowed to move 
> > > normally and couldn't get a straight answer.
> They
> > would be happy for 
> > > us to demonstrate on Devonshire Green. I said
> this
> > was not an option, 
> > > we wanted to have a presence in the city centre
> > and to be able to 
> > > march, we didn't see the point of being coralled
> > on Devonshire Green, 
> > > surrounded by police. He - Gary - said
> Devonshire
> > Green was a 
> > > traditional place for demos and there would be
> > people around.
> > Thanks to you Jillian and John for negotiating. I
> > think that is playing 
> > right into our hands.
> > It is what we expected in a way and I think we
> > should use this to 
> > generate publicity as it is outragous. I cannot
> > believe how stupid they 
> > are anyway. The same is happening in Gleneagles as
> > G8 alternatives is 
> > being denied to march there during the conference.
> > THey make it all to 
> > obvious:  Freedom is slavery, war is peace,
> > democracy is staying at 
> > home and shut up.
> > 
> > >   
> > > John is rewriting the letter emphasising that
> this
> > is an unacceptable 
> > > infringement of our right to demonstrate. We can
> > then get is signed by 
> > > as many people as possible, including any big
> > names we can think of 
> > > and send to the press, the police, the Council,
> > whatever.
> > is good and important. In my opionion though the
> > rewritten letter 
> > should focus on the right to demostrate being
> > deprived of us, without 
> > mentioning the way we would have had the march
> (e.g.
> > well disciplined 
> > and the like) because that sounds a bit odd to me.
> > The right to protest 
> > is a fundamental right, full stop, it is not
> subject
> > to further 
> > regulations, micro self management, forward self
> > diziplin and the 
> > like...
> > 
> > >
> > >  
> > > Not sure how the SAG8 group will respond in
> terms
> > of doing something 
> > > else/different/more so on the afternoon/evening
> of
> > the 15th ...
> > As far as I am concerned, gathering on Devonshire
> > Green with sound 
> > system and hang out there anyway. We could stage a
> > protest there for 
> > the right to demonstrate, e.g. by having our
> mouths
> > taped, our hands 
> > cuffed. We have to make sure that we are on top of
> > it though, do not 
> > want people to get frustated by sheer police force
> > as expressed by some 
> > after Derby...we are more powerful than they can
> > possibly imagine...
> > 
> > > as far as I'm concerned, I was only interested
> in
> > helping set up a 
> > > peaceful, well disciplined march and will not
> get
> > involved in 
> > > alternatives on the street - am going to
> > concentrate on getting 
> > > maximum publicity for this turn of events and on
> > the other things - 
> > > march on the 11th
> > is it feasable to get the stop the war coalition
> to
> > express solidarity 
> > on the 11th to us being denied to march on
> > Wednesday? Like having all 
> > banners just in black, as if they were being
> > censored, having no 
> > speeches and everybody quite, no
> > slogans....publicity wise that would 
> > generate a lot more attention and it also makes
> more
> > sense than the 
> > usual march, speech, go home and feel powerless
> type
> > of thing...
> > 
> > > , Peace in the Park, demo outside and questions
> > inside the council 
> > > meeting ...
> > >  
> > would like to emphazise our possibilites to raise
> > awareness during the 
> > counterconference...after the nottingham dissent
> > meeting, I have the 
> > impression that we can expect quite a few people
> to
> > come over. The 
> > program is slowly growing as there will be meeting
> > of make borders 
> > history and other campaigns in preparation of G8
> in
> > Scotland.
> > 
> > 
> > > Will be interested to hear what you all think.
> > >  
> > 
> > Do not forget, that we are using the G8 being in
> > Sheffield to 
> > deconstruct their faul narrative of freedom and
> > democracy (pronouced 
> > the american way) and they are of great help to us
> > in this respect.
> > 
> > May the force be with thou
> > 
> > Fabian
> > >  
> > > Jillian
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