[HacktionLab] yes, yes and yes [WAS: Re: Using all free software for booklet]

Thu Apr 15 09:55:33 BST 2010

yes: i think john's offer is fantastic (and totally agree with the
f/oss argument!) - well, all the offers really ;-)

yes: i think anyone who has access to a printers should be asking for
a quotation - it doesn't hurt to shop around, even if they are
workers' collectives

yes: to getting this done!

solidarity,

	--gdm

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:34:52AM -0700, John Hodge wrote:
> Hi all
> If you need the thing done quickly - then yes don't get ambitious with artists (though you need something visual to go with it I guess). I could do something fairly simple, without being boring or conservative.
> 
> The other thing I would like to do if I was laying out this project is to do the whole thing using free software - was it decided already to do this? 
> 
> I would do it with Scribus-Gimp-ghostscript- free fonts on Ubuntu. It'd be cool to say 'this publication was done entirely using free/open source software' - I am yet to see those words on something.
> 
> Cheers
> John
> 
> 
> Hi JimDog,
> 
> Although a nice idea, I for one am opposed to anything as ambitious.  
> I think we aim for a quick simple design and get the bloody thing  
> printed and out there without any more hold ups.
> 
> Mike.
> 
> Quoting JimDog <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>:
> 
> > Hey
> >
> > That sounds amazing! Thanks for volunteering.
> >
> > I've been thinking about artwork this week. I had an idea that we  
> > could ask people we know who produce radical zines to maybe  
> > illustrate the user stories so it breaks up the text a bit and opens  
> > the whole thing up to a wider audience who may not be directly into  
> > geek activism per se but would read it for the illustrations and  
> > hopefully pick up on the advice whilst they do.
> >
> > The downside is that time is as ever short. The london zine  
> > symposium is coming up at the end of next month for which i'm trying  
> > to get some time off work. Was thinking i could maybe talk to people  
> > there, show them the draft and try and get some of them to do some  
> > illustrations?
> >
> > Does anyone know anyone personally that they could maybe ask about  
> > this before we go to print? Also, in terms of printing, we could ask  
> > footprint workers coop in leeds to do a run for distributing in the  
> > north perhaps?
> >
> >
> > Solidarity
> >
> > jimdog
> >
> > -original message-
> > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] FYI: Minutes about booklet and what next for it.
> > From: John Hodge <jhodge_98 at yahoo.com>
> > Date: 14/04/2010 12:01 pm
> >
> > Hi there
> > I am on this email list, but never contribute to it - maybe I can help now.
> >
> > If you are looking for help designing the book - I laid-out and did  
> > most production and editing on 5 SchNEWS books, as well as 2 other  
> > books and numerous booklets, pamphlets, DVD and album covers.
> >
> > Also - I have recently done a long email interview with Richard  
> > Stallman on a range of topics from P2P to copyleft and gnu and other  
> > topics he talks about. If you wanted to use any excerpts from this  
> > text then you can.
> >
> > Also - in the 'Free As In Freedom' bit, neither weblink works. And
> > after all the emails with RMS lately, I know the one or two places that
> > he'd start splitting hairs if he saw that text. I could let you know
> > what they were.
> >
> > Glad to hear about this book, sorry to hear about it so late - I  
> > realise it can be hard to incorporate new people in a project the  
> > later it gets into the process.
> >
> > Thanks
> > John H
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
> > To: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics  
> > <hacktionlab at lists.psand.net>
> > Sent: Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:34:13
> > Subject: [HacktionLab] FYI: Minutes about booklet and what next for it.
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've written up the minutes of the salient points from Saturday's book
> > sprint session on the booklet.  Please have a look at
> > http://hacktivista.net/hacktionlab/index.php/Minutes_of_Spring_HacktionLab_2010#Hacktivist_Booklet
> >
> >
> > If you were there, please read and check them for accuracy.  Thanks.
> >
> > A few points on next steps then:
> >
> > *  We decided to give it a break for a couple of weeks to get distance
> > from the content.
> > *  Then MF, BG and MR said they would be happy to continue to final edit
> > it into a version ready to be packaged up.
> > *  MF will contact Trapese to ask if they want to help design the
> > booklet and if they can offer advice.
> > *  It will then go to print: we all agreed to contribute a small amount
> > each to doing an initial run of 500.
> > *  It will be ready for the gathering in June.
> >
> > The current working draft of the book is located at:
> >
> > http://www.booki.cc/tech-tools-for-activists/
> >
> > You can create an account, login and get editing, but please bear in mind:
> >
> > * the style guide at
> > * not to make major changes, unless you have good reason or really feel
> > inspired to rewrite a whole chapter
> > * please don't add loads of technical detail or try to cover too much
> > ground in the article: if there's something useful to read on-line, then
> > provide a link to it.
> > * try to be as simple in your use of language and jargon free as
> > possible, this is aimed at n00bs
> >
> > Finally, we agreed that we would use this very list to discuss major
> > edits.  Hopefully this will work to have a dialogue, involve more of you
> > in this process, open it up, etc; and hopefully it won't annoy everyone
> > with the increase in spam.
> >
> > Looking, well, better than it was before! ;)
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mike.
> >
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