[HacktionLab] yes, yes and yes [WAS: Re: Using all free software for booklet]

Thu Apr 15 18:16:36 BST 2010

One of the reasons for approaching Trapese, and in particular Steve, is
that they use free software for publishing their stuff
and have laid up things in Scribus/Gimp previously (The little
Transition Towns critque booklet for example).

Yes, I agree with gdm, let's just get a few quotes in.  The one we have so far was 60 quid for 500, 20 page A5 booklet, with an extra 15 for if we have a cover with a colour (I can't remember the exact name of the colouring process, but it's basically a primary green, blue or red).

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Mike Harris
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On 15/04/2010 09:55, Garcon du Monde wrote:
> yes: i think john's offer is fantastic (and totally agree with the
> f/oss argument!) - well, all the offers really ;-)
>
> yes: i think anyone who has access to a printers should be asking for
> a quotation - it doesn't hurt to shop around, even if they are
> workers' collectives
>
> yes: to getting this done!
>
> solidarity,
>
> 	--gdm
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:34:52AM -0700, John Hodge wrote:
>   
>> Hi all
>> If you need the thing done quickly - then yes don't get ambitious with artists (though you need something visual to go with it I guess). I could do something fairly simple, without being boring or conservative.
>>
>> The other thing I would like to do if I was laying out this project is to do the whole thing using free software - was it decided already to do this? 
>>
>> I would do it with Scribus-Gimp-ghostscript- free fonts on Ubuntu. It'd be cool to say 'this publication was done entirely using free/open source software' - I am yet to see those words on something.
>>
>> Cheers
>> John
>>
>>
>> Hi JimDog,
>>
>> Although a nice idea, I for one am opposed to anything as ambitious.  
>> I think we aim for a quick simple design and get the bloody thing  
>> printed and out there without any more hold ups.
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> Quoting JimDog <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>:
>>
>>     
>>> Hey
>>>
>>> That sounds amazing! Thanks for volunteering.
>>>
>>> I've been thinking about artwork this week. I had an idea that we  
>>> could ask people we know who produce radical zines to maybe  
>>> illustrate the user stories so it breaks up the text a bit and opens  
>>> the whole thing up to a wider audience who may not be directly into  
>>> geek activism per se but would read it for the illustrations and  
>>> hopefully pick up on the advice whilst they do.
>>>
>>> The downside is that time is as ever short. The london zine  
>>> symposium is coming up at the end of next month for which i'm trying  
>>> to get some time off work. Was thinking i could maybe talk to people  
>>> there, show them the draft and try and get some of them to do some  
>>> illustrations?
>>>
>>> Does anyone know anyone personally that they could maybe ask about  
>>> this before we go to print? Also, in terms of printing, we could ask  
>>> footprint workers coop in leeds to do a run for distributing in the  
>>> north perhaps?
>>>
>>>
>>> Solidarity
>>>
>>> jimdog
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] FYI: Minutes about booklet and what next for it.
>>> From: John Hodge <jhodge_98 at yahoo.com>
>>> Date: 14/04/2010 12:01 pm
>>>
>>> Hi there
>>> I am on this email list, but never contribute to it - maybe I can help now.
>>>
>>> If you are looking for help designing the book - I laid-out and did  
>>> most production and editing on 5 SchNEWS books, as well as 2 other  
>>> books and numerous booklets, pamphlets, DVD and album covers.
>>>
>>> Also - I have recently done a long email interview with Richard  
>>> Stallman on a range of topics from P2P to copyleft and gnu and other  
>>> topics he talks about. If you wanted to use any excerpts from this  
>>> text then you can.
>>>
>>> Also - in the 'Free As In Freedom' bit, neither weblink works. And
>>> after all the emails with RMS lately, I know the one or two places that
>>> he'd start splitting hairs if he saw that text. I could let you know
>>> what they were.
>>>
>>> Glad to hear about this book, sorry to hear about it so late - I  
>>> realise it can be hard to incorporate new people in a project the  
>>> later it gets into the process.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> John H
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>>> To: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics  
>>> <hacktionlab at lists.psand.net>
>>> Sent: Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:34:13
>>> Subject: [HacktionLab] FYI: Minutes about booklet and what next for it.
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I've written up the minutes of the salient points from Saturday's book
>>> sprint session on the booklet.  Please have a look at
>>> http://hacktivista.net/hacktionlab/index.php/Minutes_of_Spring_HacktionLab_2010#Hacktivist_Booklet
>>>
>>>
>>> If you were there, please read and check them for accuracy.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> A few points on next steps then:
>>>
>>> *  We decided to give it a break for a couple of weeks to get distance
>>> from the content.
>>> *  Then MF, BG and MR said they would be happy to continue to final edit
>>> it into a version ready to be packaged up.
>>> *  MF will contact Trapese to ask if they want to help design the
>>> booklet and if they can offer advice.
>>> *  It will then go to print: we all agreed to contribute a small amount
>>> each to doing an initial run of 500.
>>> *  It will be ready for the gathering in June.
>>>
>>> The current working draft of the book is located at:
>>>
>>> http://www.booki.cc/tech-tools-for-activists/
>>>
>>> You can create an account, login and get editing, but please bear in mind:
>>>
>>> * the style guide at
>>> * not to make major changes, unless you have good reason or really feel
>>> inspired to rewrite a whole chapter
>>> * please don't add loads of technical detail or try to cover too much
>>> ground in the article: if there's something useful to read on-line, then
>>> provide a link to it.
>>> * try to be as simple in your use of language and jargon free as
>>> possible, this is aimed at n00bs
>>>
>>> Finally, we agreed that we would use this very list to discuss major
>>> edits.  Hopefully this will work to have a dialogue, involve more of you
>>> in this process, open it up, etc; and hopefully it won't annoy everyone
>>> with the increase in spam.
>>>
>>> Looking, well, better than it was before! ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Mike.
>>>
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