[HacktionLab] documentalism
Mike Harris
mike at mbharris.co.uk
Sat Apr 24 14:02:01 BST 2010
Nice one Sy, that'd be most excellent.
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Mike Harris
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On 23/04/2010 20:08, Sy wrote:
> I'd be game for doing some video based documentation
>
> Sy
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>> 1. funding (mick fuzz)
>> 2. Fancy being a documentalist for this year's BarnCamp?
>> (Mike Harris)
>> 3. FW: RE: funding (JimDog)
>> 4. To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we decide! (Mike Harris)
>> 5. Re: FW: RE: funding (Mike Harris)
>> 6. Re: Fancy being a documentalist for this year's BarnCamp?
>> (Mike Harris)
>> 7. Re: To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we decide! (Steve Woods)
>> 8. Fwd: To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we decide! (Mike Harris)
>> 9. Re: FW: RE: funding (mick fuzz)
>> 10. Re: Fwd: To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we decide! (mick fuzz)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:17:21 +0100
>> From: mick fuzz <mickfuzz at clearerchannel.org>
>> Subject: [HacktionLab] funding
>> To: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics
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>> What do people think about this suggestion?
>> Mick
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: undercurrents alternative news <paulo at undercurrents.org>
>> Date: Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:15 AM
>>
>>
>> Why not put in for this for the barn camp?
>>
>> Community funds
>> Kerrygold, the butter brand owned by a cooperative of Irish dairy
>> farmers, has launched the Kerrygold Community Awards.
>> First run last year, the awards are designed to` encourage, support and
>> reward people all over the UK that come together to achieve a common
>> goal that brings benefits to a whole community`. People or organisations
>> with a good idea for a community project and who require funding may
>> enter the Community Awards. However, national registered charities are
>> excluded from entering: the rules state that projects must be `staffed
>> by members of that community. These projects should be non-profit
>> generating and should not be initiated by national registered charities`.
>> www.kerrygoldcommunityawards.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:35:50 +0100
>> From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Subject: [HacktionLab] Fancy being a documentalist for this year's
>> BarnCamp?
>> To: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics
>> <hacktionlab at lists.psand.net>
>> Message-ID: <4BD1A236.8090400 at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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>> Hi There,
>>
>> It would be really good to have one or more people up for documenting
>> this year's BarnCamp.
>>
>> Need someone to take photos.
>>
>> Need someone to do some video interviews to make a short video, possibly
>> for use in a workshop or barcamp if we get to that.
>>
>> Anybody up for it?
>>
>> Mike.
>>
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>> Mike Harris
>> w: http://mbharris.co.uk
>> t: +44 7811 671 893
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:46:05 +0100
>> From: "JimDog" <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>
>> Subject: [HacktionLab] FW: RE: funding
>> To: Hacktionlab at lists.psand.net
>> Message-ID: <JWr5x9BXJ8f4.5CF35g4R at mail.riseup.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Bloody munging!
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: RE: [HacktionLab] funding
>> From: "JimDog" <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>
>> Date: 23/04/2010 2:45 pm
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Though i'm not blocking this if others think they want to go for it, it has set off my vegan gland a little as it may do for some others (though i appreciate there's a pretty even split between non/veggies in this group).
>>
>> As a lifelong animal rights activist, i wouldn't be personally comfortable entering a competition run by a dairy farm, but of course i don't want to be the one holding the tin opener on that particular can of the finest worms :-) also, as the barncamp is hosted at a vegan farm, would it be appropriate to raise funds in this way?
>>
>> In good spirited solidarity
>>
>> jd
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: [HacktionLab] funding
>> From: mick fuzz <mickfuzz at clearerchannel.org>
>> Date: 23/04/2010 1:18 pm
>>
>> What do people think about this suggestion?
>> Mick
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: undercurrents alternative news <paulo at undercurrents.org>
>> Date: Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:15 AM
>>
>>
>> Why not put in for this for the barn camp?
>>
>> Community funds
>> Kerrygold, the butter brand owned by a cooperative of Irish dairy
>> farmers, has launched the Kerrygold Community Awards.
>> First run last year, the awards are designed to` encourage, support and
>> reward people all over the UK that come together to achieve a common
>> goal that brings benefits to a whole community`. People or organisations
>> with a good idea for a community project and who require funding may
>> enter the Community Awards. However, national registered charities are
>> excluded from entering: the rules state that projects must be `staffed
>> by members of that community. These projects should be non-profit
>> generating and should not be initiated by national registered charities`.
>> www.kerrygoldcommunityawards.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:18:12 +0100
>> From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Subject: [HacktionLab] To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we decide!
>> To: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics
>> <hacktionlab at lists.psand.net>
>> Message-ID: <4BD1AC24.20000 at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Over the last couple of weeks I've been discussing whether to get people
>> to pay up for hacktionlab this year in advance, and if so how.
>>
>> There are two reasons for going down this line of thinking:
>>
>> Firstly it is to cover the initial costs for fuel, food, refreshments,
>> hire of stuff, sundries prior to the event so that we don't incurr a
>> huge financial risk: I've done a rough calculation and I reckon, based
>> on last year's figures, that this year's BarnCamp might cost as much as
>> 1,800 to put on!
>>
>> And secondly, and possibly more importantly, it's to get people to make
>> a commitment to come, so that we can correctly calculate how much food
>> and drink to buy and plan how many meals to cook, how many workshops to
>> run etc. I've seen before, with HacktionLab and other gigs, that when
>> you get someone to book and pay for something, they are more likely to
>> take their committment seriously and turn up.
>>
>> So the question here is do we get payment up front? This could be a
>> deposit or 15 pounds or the whole amount of 31 pounds.
>>
>> And if we do, is it safe to use paypal? We did use it back last summer
>> for getting money in for the Big Green gig.
>>
>> Discuss.
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Harris
>> w: http://mbharris.co.uk
>> t: +44 7811 671 893
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:28:36 +0100
>> From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] FW: RE: funding
>> To: hacktionlab at lists.psand.net
>> Message-ID: <4BD1AE94.1040108 at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>
>> Hi JimDog,
>>
>> I appreciate your reservations, I have them too about the dairy
>> industry, and getting funding from commercial enterprises.
>>
>> Mick: I noticed on that KG site that there's a couple of caveats that
>> means we might not fit the bill, namely:
>>
>> "We define these as projects aimed at helping the immediate community in
>> which they are based (i.e. if a project helps only the community within
>> a 10 mile radius of the applicant?s base), and is staffed by members of
>> that community."
>>
>> "Projects should not be focussed on political and/ or religious
>> recruitment."
>>
>> I think something like Artists Project Earth might be a better, more neutral place to go to, although I think we've missed this year's deadline.
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Harris
>> w: http://mbharris.co.uk
>> t: +44 7811 671 893
>>
>>
>> On 23/04/2010 14:46, JimDog wrote:
>>
>>> Bloody munging!
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: RE: [HacktionLab] funding
>>> From: "JimDog" <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>
>>> Date: 23/04/2010 2:45 pm
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Though i'm not blocking this if others think they want to go for it, it has set off my vegan gland a little as it may do for some others (though i appreciate there's a pretty even split between non/veggies in this group).
>>>
>>> As a lifelong animal rights activist, i wouldn't be personally comfortable entering a competition run by a dairy farm, but of course i don't want to be the one holding the tin opener on that particular can of the finest worms :-) also, as the barncamp is hosted at a vegan farm, would it be appropriate to raise funds in this way?
>>>
>>> In good spirited solidarity
>>>
>>> jd
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: [HacktionLab] funding
>>> From: mick fuzz <mickfuzz at clearerchannel.org>
>>> Date: 23/04/2010 1:18 pm
>>>
>>> What do people think about this suggestion?
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: undercurrents alternative news <paulo at undercurrents.org>
>>> Date: Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:15 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Why not put in for this for the barn camp?
>>>
>>> Community funds
>>> Kerrygold, the butter brand owned by a cooperative of Irish dairy
>>> farmers, has launched the Kerrygold Community Awards.
>>> First run last year, the awards are designed to` encourage, support and
>>> reward people all over the UK that come together to achieve a common
>>> goal that brings benefits to a whole community`. People or organisations
>>> with a good idea for a community project and who require funding may
>>> enter the Community Awards. However, national registered charities are
>>> excluded from entering: the rules state that projects must be `staffed
>>> by members of that community. These projects should be non-profit
>>> generating and should not be initiated by national registered charities`.
>>> www.kerrygoldcommunityawards.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:30:47 +0100
>> From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Fancy being a documentalist for this year's
>> BarnCamp?
>> To: JimDog <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>
>> Cc: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics
>> <hacktionlab at lists.psand.net>
>> Message-ID: <4BD1AF17.5030109 at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi JimDog,
>>
>> (I've cc'd the list for you ;))
>>
>> That's great thanks. So you're now down for meet and greet /
>> registration stuff, and doing some photos.
>>
>> Personally, I'm not sure about the podcast thing though, sounds like a
>> load of work and sketch. Did you have anything particular in mind and
>> what use do you think it might be? (by that I mean, who on earth will
>> listen to it=.
>>
>> Yours cynically,
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Harris
>> w: http://mbharris.co.uk
>> t: +44 7811 671 893
>>
>>
>> On 23/04/2010 14:45, JimDog wrote:
>>
>>> I'm certainly up for taking photo's and getting some audio up. Would be really good if we could put together a daily podcast too :-)
>>>
>>> in solidarity
>>>
>>> jimdog
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: [HacktionLab] Fancy being a documentalist for this year's BarnCamp?
>>> From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>>> Date: 23/04/2010 2:36 pm
>>>
>>> Hi There,
>>>
>>> It would be really good to have one or more people up for documenting
>>> this year's BarnCamp.
>>>
>>> Need someone to take photos.
>>>
>>> Need someone to do some video interviews to make a short video, possibly
>>> for use in a workshop or barcamp if we get to that.
>>>
>>> Anybody up for it?
>>>
>>> Mike.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:42:56 +0100
>> From: "Steve Woods" <woodsy at bristolwireless.net>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we
>> decide!
>> To: hacktionlab at lists.psand.net
>> Message-ID: <20100423154256.10363g9dkxpltq0w at slackmail.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed"
>>
>> Quoting "Mike Harris" <mike at mbharris.co.uk>:
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Over the last couple of weeks I've been discussing whether to get people
>>> to pay up for hacktionlab this year in advance, and if so how.
>>>
>>> There are two reasons for going down this line of thinking:
>>>
>>> Firstly it is to cover the initial costs for fuel, food, refreshments,
>>> hire of stuff, sundries prior to the event so that we don't incurr a
>>> huge financial risk: I've done a rough calculation and I reckon, based
>>> on last year's figures, that this year's BarnCamp might cost as much as
>>> 1,800 to put on!
>>>
>>> And secondly, and possibly more importantly, it's to get people to make
>>> a commitment to come, so that we can correctly calculate how much food
>>> and drink to buy and plan how many meals to cook, how many workshops to
>>> run etc. I've seen before, with HacktionLab and other gigs, that when
>>> you get someone to book and pay for something, they are more likely to
>>> take their committment seriously and turn up.
>>>
>>> So the question here is do we get payment up front? This could be a
>>> deposit or 15 pounds or the whole amount of 31 pounds.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Mike/all
>>
>> I say a definite yes to getting some payment before the event. Getting
>> the whole amount would mean those that do dip into their pockets in
>> advance of the event for materials, food, etc., most likely wouldn't
>> have to happen to the same extent as previously - or at all.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> And if we do, is it safe to use paypal? We did use it back last summer
>>> for getting money in for the Big Green gig.
>>>
>>>
>> I think we mentioned whilst in Oxford having an alternative for
>> Luddites like me who still use cheques. :)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Woodsy
>>
>>
>>> Discuss.
>>>
>>> Mike.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Harris
>>> w: http://mbharris.co.uk
>>> t: +44 7811 671 893
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:44:05 +0100
>> From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Subject: [HacktionLab] Fwd: To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we
>> decide!
>> To: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics
>> <hacktionlab at lists.psand.net>
>> Message-ID: <4BD1B235.9050205 at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I have a proposal for this, to get the debate going:
>>
>> * you book online using the form that yossarian is building for us, you
>> get a booking reference.
>> * you then pay via paypal and use this reference, or send a cheque with
>> the reference written on the back.
>> * if you pay early, you pay less
>> * if you pay on the door, you pay more.
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [HacktionLab] To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we decide!
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:18:12 +0100
>> From: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>> To: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics
>> <hacktionlab at lists.psand.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Over the last couple of weeks I've been discussing whether to get people
>> to pay up for hacktionlab this year in advance, and if so how.
>>
>> There are two reasons for going down this line of thinking:
>>
>> Firstly it is to cover the initial costs for fuel, food, refreshments,
>> hire of stuff, sundries prior to the event so that we don't incurr a
>> huge financial risk: I've done a rough calculation and I reckon, based
>> on last year's figures, that this year's BarnCamp might cost as much as
>> 1,800 to put on!
>>
>> And secondly, and possibly more importantly, it's to get people to make
>> a commitment to come, so that we can correctly calculate how much food
>> and drink to buy and plan how many meals to cook, how many workshops to
>> run etc. I've seen before, with HacktionLab and other gigs, that when
>> you get someone to book and pay for something, they are more likely to
>> take their committment seriously and turn up.
>>
>> So the question here is do we get payment up front? This could be a
>> deposit or 15 pounds or the whole amount of 31 pounds.
>>
>> And if we do, is it safe to use paypal? We did use it back last summer
>> for getting money in for the Big Green gig.
>>
>> Discuss.
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Harris
>> w: http://mbharris.co.uk
>> t: +44 7811 671 893
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> HacktionLab mailing list
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:20:11 +0100
>> From: mick fuzz <mickfuzz at clearerchannel.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] FW: RE: funding
>> To: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Cc: hacktionlab at lists.psand.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <o2t6163bcef1004230820w6949b180h341876d502431adf at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi JimDog,
>>>
>>> I appreciate your reservations, I have them too about the dairy
>>> industry, and getting funding from commercial enterprises.
>>>
>>>
>> fair play - do we need funding as well? i think it might cause more problems
>> than it might solve
>>
>> mick
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:21:18 +0100
>> From: mick fuzz <mickfuzz at clearerchannel.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Fwd: To pay (in advance) or not to pay: we
>> decide!
>> To: Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk>
>> Cc: An occasional convergence to discuss technical topics
>> <hacktionlab at lists.psand.net>
>> Message-ID:
>> <y2u6163bcef1004230821w4138a48bgfbc7d7ffc79a46bd at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Mike Harris <mike at mbharris.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> I have a proposal for this, to get the debate going:
>>>
>>> * you book online using the form that yossarian is building for us, you
>>> get a booking reference.
>>> * you then pay via paypal and use this reference, or send a cheque with
>>> the reference written on the back.
>>> * if you pay early, you pay less
>>> * if you pay on the door, you pay more.
>>>
>>>
>> +1
>> sounds good to me
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