[HacktionLab] naming it as...

victoria sinclair vickysinclair at gmail.com
Wed Aug 3 16:59:36 UTC 2011


love it...all good in the hood!
plus it is software freedom day on 17th

says she that is sitting on someone's windows machine and REALLY needs some
more help with some things

also - there were some ideas some time back of a book sprint at that
time....but there was a wariness about the capacity to take it on

if we get the space we want there would be a book sprint zone
think we can do one in a space near there anyway
plus
we want an ideas sprint for local rather decrepid old church thing where our
lab/hub thing is....
so - after the 17th and 18th the idea is that it unconferences and people
can tackle what they want
and are very welcome to stay on in residency for a while beyond 21st if
needs be
vx

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:45 PM, <hacktionlab-request at lists.aktivix.org>wrote:

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> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:45:09 +0100
> From: penguin <penguin at riseup.net>
> To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Gathering in Manchester September 17th and
>        18th
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> On Wed 03 Aug 2011 15:16:29 BST, m3shrom [m3shrom at riseup.net] emailed
> subject: "Re: [HacktionLab] Gathering in Manchester September 17th and
> 18th" saying ...
>
> > On 03/08/2011 08:51, adelayde at riseup.net wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm wondering if anyone has any strong objections about calling this a
> >>> hacktionlab?
> >>
> >> no, not at all, I think it's a good idea.
> >>
> >> if it's a goer, then I'm happy to put something up on the web site...
> >
> > I've made a start here -
> >
> > http://hacktivista.net/hacktionlab/index.php/Manchester_2011
> >
> > With it being a hacktionlab, it makes sense to include project that
> > everyone can be a part of,
> >
> > So i've added these two
> >
> > * Version 2 of Tech Tools for Activists - organising to print a new
> > version of the leaflet
>
> A time ago I offered to project manage a review of activist friendly web
> hosts. I would quite like a slot at the Gather to get this going -
> mainly in finding out what questions to ask to see if hosts are activist
> friendly. I made a start here
> https://we.riseup.net/hacktionlab/secure-activist-friendly-webhosting
> but want to get the questions finished before going much further.
>
> It's a slightly different project to Tech Tools, but would be good to
> have the review done so it can be referenced in the new book
>
>
> > * Hacktionlab on tour 2012 - Organising and getting workshops together
> >
> > If you would like to add another please do suggest it here on this list.
> >
> > nice one
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:45:32 +0100
> From: victoria sinclair <vickysinclair at gmail.com>
> To: enjoyeverymoment at riseup.net
> Cc: hacktionlab <hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>, gdm <gdm at aktivix.org>
> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] hackademia gatherings 14th to 21st sept
> Message-ID:
>        <CA+Jy3rDH=8jBaYxDPZxP4mpysJ4jdcMsqQMh4hQt4Tdq+H2w5w at mail.gmail.com
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> hey all
>
> thanks for this as last time i asked some friends as they were leaving
> something and no-one remembered
> i said all about what i do in the email but was then away from computers
> for
> a beat
>
> i kinda want the aktivix now
>
> you'll see when you get emails....hopefully....
>
> but if no-one can sort it will be much appreciative of your offer
>
> been trying off and on for several years now but have a lot of paperwork
> and
> on the ground day to day stuff so if something ain't working quickly
> sometimes it takes a while to revisit as there is always something else to
> have to do in the meantime....hope we can all connect
>
> vx
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:11 PM, <enjoyeverymoment at riseup.net> wrote:
>
> > I can help people get riseup.net accounts
> > it helps me every time I say my email address about what I'm doing and
> > what I'm part of
> > please contact me to find out how to get your email and
> > bepartofitall at riseup.net
> >
> > bethechange.... @riseup.net
> >
> > x
> >
> >
> > > thanks for that
> > > will get one
> > >
> > > tried several times to get riseup accounts and wrote in emails and it
> > > never
> > > came about and then have always been in transit....always was looking
> for
> > > an
> > > alternative
> > >
> > > consider it close to sorted!
> > >
> > > v
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:49 PM, gdm <gdm at aktivix.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> hi vicky,
> > >>
> > >> thanks for taking on helping to organise this - sounds like it will be
> a
> > >> great event! (although at a personal level, i'm not sure i'll be able
> to
> > >> make it :/ )
> > >>
> > >> one thing, though. would you perhaps like to use a more 'secure' email
> > >> address such as @riseup.net or @aktivix.org instead of gmail? there
> are
> > >> many issues with the use of corporate (read 'capitalist') [email]
> > >> providers and many of us in the hacktionlab network have been working
> to
> > >> provide non-commercial alternatives.
> > >>
> > >> if you want an aktivix a/c, you could write to
> > >> aktivix-request at lists.aktivix.org (and i'm sure mick will vouch for
> > you)
> > >> or there may be people you know who would be able to help you get a
> > >> riseup or other a/c.
> > >>
> > >> solidarity,
> > >>
> > >>        --gdm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 10:55:14AM +0100, victoria sinclair wrote:
> > >> > hey all
> > >> >
> > >> > we'll be working with mick on this and many other partners and would
> > >> love
> > >> to
> > >> > see many of you here for a week, or as long as you like of
> hacktivies
> > >> > we have quite a bit of accommodation sorted - and even some camping
> > >> > possibilities!
> > >> >
> > >> > www.hackademia.org.uk
> > >> >
> > >> > please email vickysinclair at gmail.com for more info
> > >> >
> > >> > and hope to see you soon in deepest mancunia!
> > >> > (lots of nice entertainment and free outings set up for the week as
> > >> well!)
> > >> >
> > >> > v
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:38 AM,
> > >> <hacktionlab-request at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Send HacktionLab mailing list submissions to
> > >> > >        hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
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> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Today's Topics:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >   1. Re: Gathering in Manchester September 17th and 18th (m3shrom)
> > >> > >   2. Re: Gathering in Manchester September 17th and 18th
> (chickpea)
> > >> > >   3. Re: Gathering in Manchester September 17th and 18th (protag)
> > >> > >   4. Re: Gathering in Manchester September 17th and 18th (m3shrom)
> > >> > >   5. Another Call to Fill in a Table (Ben Green)
> > >> > >   6. Re: Gathering in Manchester September 17th and 18th
> > >> > >      (adelayde at riseup.net)
> > >> > >   7. Re: Another Call to Fill in a Table (adelayde at riseup.net)
> > >> > >   8. Re: Another Call to Fill in a Table (Ben Green)
> > >> > >   9. Re: Another Call to Fill in a Table
> > >> (enjoyeverymoment at riseup.net)
> > >> > >  10. Re: Another Call to Fill in a Table (m3shrom)
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 1
> > >> > > Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:24:09 +0100
> > >> > > From: m3shrom <m3shrom at riseup.net>
> > >> > > To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Gathering in Manchester September 17th
> > >> and
> > >> > >        18th
> > >> > > Message-ID: <4E37EC69.90903 at riseup.net>
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > i think all the people might be familiar with what the other
> > >> > > website/group
> > >> > > > is doing but just wanna do their own stuff and will eventually
> > >> find
> > >> the
> > >> > > > others to jam with
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > this is just in general
> > >> > > > might apply with the other stuff going on perfectly...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ok - that is a good point.
> > >> > > It has a focus of the projects mentioned, and I think that gives
> it
> > >> a
> > >> > > shape, and the interaction can be ad-hoc as long as there is space
> > >> for
> > >> > > that to happen.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Well, that was enough positive feedback for me (+1 offlist) - so
> > >> I've
> > >> > > booked the venue for the Sat and Sunday 17th and 18th September.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It's a community venue so it is only 50 quid per day. We can also
> > >> use
> > >> > > other local venues as well for free I think.
> > >> > > There are also offices  nearby and i'll look at getting keys for
> > >> those
> > >> > > so we can use them. There is also the upstairs of a cafe round the
> > >> > > corner for break out discussion groups, and a garden centre which
> > >> has
> > >> > > spaces we could use too.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think really accommodation is the limiting factor :(
> > >> > > If people know people in manchester with spaces or crash space it
> > >> might
> > >> > > be good if you could get in contact with them to see if they could
> > >> house
> > >> > > some up of us.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > nice one
> > >> > > mick
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 2
> > >> > > Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:49:55 +0000
> > >> > > From: chickpea <chickpea at aktivix.org>
> > >> > > To: <hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Gathering in Manchester September 17th
> > >> and
> > >> > >        18th
> > >> > > Message-ID: <3b69223ee21d99e80e8307dc2b89dd90 at aktivix.org>
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hello all,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > What do you guys think about this - is it too vague? Really I
> just
> > >> want
> > >> > > > a chance to get people with the following projects in the same
> > >> place
> > >> at
> > >> > > > the same time.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think it's a really good idea and very happy to hear you kicking
> > >> this
> > >> > > off.
> > >> > > I am well up for it, attending and helping out however I can.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > This is happening at the same time at Hackemedia -
> > >> > > > http://www.psych.lse.ac.uk/~patrick/hackademia//
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The venue will be one of the following - Yard Theatre, Hulme
> > >> Community
> > >> > > > Garden centre, Marquee in Leaf St Community Garden (12 volt help
> > >> needed
> > >> > > > for this).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Food won't be provided, we'll be looking at going our for a
> cheap
> > >> meal
> > >> > > > on sat night and relying on sandwich and fallafel shops.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Cost will be limited to covering the cost of venue/s and
> transport
> > >> for
> > >> > > > infrastructure. Estimated at ?10 for 2 days.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Accommodation will be attempted at being provided - a fair
> degree
> > >> of
> > >> > > > notice would be good to sort this out.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Please put me down on the list as attending. Let me know if I can
> > >> help
> > >> > > with anything.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -cp
> > >> > >
> > >> > > PS: SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT - to any hacktivist at s in London - come
> > hang
> > >> out
> > >> > > at LARC this Friday, 7:30pm till late - it is Dissident Island's
> 4th
> > >> > > birthday. Lots of beer and good cheer shall abound. Don't be shy,
> > >> just
> > >> show
> > >> > > up and hang out. (Well, if you know us that is. If you're a total
> > >> stranger
> > >> > > it might be a bit weird but we'll handle it!) And for anyone not
> in
> > >> London,
> > >> > > please send beer and good cheer via your postal service of choice
> > >> c/o
> > >> LARC,
> > >> > > 62 Fieldgate Street, London, E1 1ES.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 3
> > >> > > Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:11:22 +0000
> > >> > > From: protag <protag at aktivix.org>
> > >> > > To: m3shrom <m3shrom at riseup.net>
> > >> > > Cc: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Gathering in Manchester September 17th
> > >> and
> > >> > >        18th
> > >> > > Message-ID: <871335812b4071bdabf46b3715e29905 at aktivix.org>
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:57:13 +0100, m3shrom <m3shrom at riseup.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > Hi there,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > What do you guys think about this - is it too vague? Really I
> just
> > >> want
> > >> > > > a chance to get people with the following projects in the same
> > >> place
> > >> at
> > >> > > > the same time.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Sounds great
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > * bethemedia.org.uk
> > >> > > > * network23.org
> > >> > > > * catalystradio.org
> > >> > > > * others welcome
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The venue will be one of the following - Yard Theatre, Hulme
> > >> Community
> > >> > > > Garden centre, Marquee in Leaf St Community Garden (12 volt help
> > >> needed
> > >> > > > for this).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I can* help with 12v - sound/lights/projector/tent, and would be
> > >> pleased
> > >> > > to.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *I have an event almost certainly on 24th which _might_ move to
> 17th
> > >> -
> > >> > > will let you know if I become unavailable (only a slight
> > >> possibility).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers
> > >> > >
> > >> > > protag
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 4
> > >> > > Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 14:29:30 +0100
> > >> > > From: m3shrom <m3shrom at riseup.net>
> > >> > > To: protag <protag at aktivix.org>
> > >> > > Cc: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Gathering in Manchester September 17th
> > >> and
> > >> > >        18th
> > >> > > Message-ID: <4E37FBBA.70100 at riseup.net>
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I can* help with 12v - sound/lights/projector/tent, and would be
> > >> pleased
> > >> > > > to.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > *I have an event almost certainly on 24th which _might_ move to
> > >> 17th
> > >> -
> > >> > > > will let you know if I become unavailable (only a slight
> > >> possibility).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ok great - we should be ok - I've booked the yard theatre so it's
> > >> got
> > >> > > electrick.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yard Theatre Manchester
> > >> > > http://www.work.change.coop/index.php?q=theatre
> > >> > > as seen on mule tv -
> > >> http://manchestermule.com/article/mule-video-debate
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm wondering if anyone has any strong objections about calling
> this
> > >> a
> > >> > > hacktionlab? I know that it has a pretty specific focus but as
> long
> > >> as
> > >> > > we make that clear maybe that's ok.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > nice one
> > >> > > mick
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 5
> > >> > > Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:48:35 +0100
> > >> > > From: Ben Green <ben at bristolwireless.net>
> > >> > > To: "hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org" <
> hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
> > >> > > Subject: [HacktionLab] Another Call to Fill in a Table
> > >> > > Message-ID:
> > >> > >        <
> > 20110802184835.Horde.qx3qLmOelG9OODhzUCXFijA at slackmail.co.uk>
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed;
> > >> DelSp=Yes
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi all,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks to everyone who took the time to fill in this table:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >>
> >
> http://hacktivista.net/hacktionlab/index.php/Table_of_Possible_Workshops_for_Hacktionlab_on_the_Road
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It lists all the workshop we might offer. Can more people fill it
> in
> > >> > > please. We'll need this if we are going to get booked into more
> > >> > > events, so particularly fill it in if you are wanting to join us
> on
> > >> > > the Hacktionlab on tour thingy.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > > ==
> > >> > >  From Ben Green
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 6
> > >> > > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 00:51:48 -0700 (PDT)
> > >> > > From: adelayde at riseup.net
> > >> > > To: "m3shrom" <m3shrom at riseup.net>
> > >> > > Cc: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Gathering in Manchester September 17th
> > >> and
> > >> > >        18th
> > >> > > Message-ID:
> > >> > >        <8b7bbddaaf0d6dda6876162cdc777736.squirrel at tern.riseup.net
> >
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > I'm wondering if anyone has any strong objections about calling
> > >> this
> > >> a
> > >> > > > hacktionlab?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > no, not at all, I think it's a good idea.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > if it's a goer, then I'm happy to put something up on the web
> > >> site...
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I know that it has a pretty specific focus but as long as
> > >> > > > we make that clear maybe that's ok.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > nice one
> > >> > > > mick
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> > >> > > > HacktionLab mailing list
> > >> > > > HacktionLab at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> > > > https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/hacktionlab
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 7
> > >> > > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 00:57:55 -0700 (PDT)
> > >> > > From: adelayde at riseup.net
> > >> > > To: "Ben Green" <ben at bristolwireless.net>
> > >> > > Cc: "hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org" <
> hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Another Call to Fill in a Table
> > >> > > Message-ID:
> > >> > >        <16750454a5db8824a3a0bf7d4f7a341a.squirrel at tern.riseup.net
> >
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi all,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks to everyone who took the time to fill in this table:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >>
> >
> http://hacktivista.net/hacktionlab/index.php/Table_of_Possible_Workshops_for_Hacktionlab_on_the_Road
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > It lists all the workshop we might offer. Can more people fill
> it
> > >> in
> > >> > > > please. We'll need this if we are going to get booked into more
> > >> > > > events, so particularly fill it in if you are wanting to join us
> > >> on
> > >> > > > the Hacktionlab on tour thingy.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Nice one Ben.  I think we need to define what constitutes a
> workshop
> > >> as
> > >> > > well, such as how much preparation / notes / handouts / slides one
> > >> might
> > >> > > be expected to produce for such a thing....
> > >> > >
> > >> > > or maybe I'm being too anal about it?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I guess my angle is that I think they need to be real, solid
> > >> workshops,
> > >> > > which I know a lot of them are, that can be turned into templates
> > >> and
> > >> > > handed to other people to provide and also share with others.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Cheers,
> > >> > > > ==
> > >> > > >  From Ben Green
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> > >> > > > HacktionLab mailing list
> > >> > > > HacktionLab at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> > > > https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/hacktionlab
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 8
> > >> > > Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:14:28 +0100
> > >> > > From: Ben Green <ben at bristolwireless.net>
> > >> > > To: adelayde at riseup.net
> > >> > > Cc: "hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org" <
> hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Another Call to Fill in a Table
> > >> > > Message-ID:
> > >> > >        <
> > 20110803091428.Horde.Z326UGOelG9OOQNk6r0X7qA at slackmail.co.uk>
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Quoting adelayde at riseup.net:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Nice one Ben.  I think we need to define what constitutes a
> > >> workshop
> > >> as
> > >> > > > well, such as how much preparation / notes / handouts / slides
> one
> > >> might
> > >> > > > be expected to produce for such a thing....
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > or maybe I'm being too anal about it?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I guess my angle is that I think they need to be real, solid
> > >> workshops,
> > >> > > > which I know a lot of them are, that can be turned into
> templates
> > >> and
> > >> > > > handed to other people to provide and also share with others.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks for replying to this thread, I really want to get us on the
> > >> > > road next year with some workshops to offer.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think it should be up to the people running the workshops to
> sort
> > >> > > that out what resources they need. If they want to train in how to
> > >> > > teach and build content, they should also take that on themselves.
> > >> > > Let's just get our workshops out there and offered, the quality
> > >> > > control can come after, and we've all been to each others
> workshops
> > >> > > anyway, so they can hopefully recall how good they were.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Templates are a fantastic plan, but let's just get them out there
> > >> and
> > >> > > on offer first. It's part of the point of getting them on a public
> > >> > > page is that we can point people to that page. In terms of
> producing
> > >> > > resources, I'd prefer to concentrating on "tech tools for
> activists
> > >> > > 2.0", as the response to it was so positive last time.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cheers,
> > >> > > ==
> > >> > >  From Ben Green
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 9
> > >> > > Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:08:36 +0100 (GMT-1)
> > >> > > From: enjoyeverymoment at riseup.net
> > >> > > To: "hacktionlab" <hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Another Call to Fill in a Table
> > >> > > Message-ID:
> > >> <55253b4c233f7c9a9aa3aa7b3f5f4620.squirrel at auk.riseup.net>
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hello
> > >> > > Yeah I agree with "Let's just get our workshops out there and
> > >> offered"
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I am in the process of sorting and ordering my media
> > >> archive/collections.
> > >> > > For example I've made XviD movies of some workshops/slides tp put
> > >> them
> > >> on
> > >> > > a youtube type place for an online version/workshop for activist.
> So
> > >> at
> > >> > > least when we're sitting at home we can appreciatee and watch
> these
> > >> things
> > >> > > and not flopping hollywood drama! Collecting and  (eventually)
> > >> uploading
> > >> > > to somewhere safe will be my self-elected job for a while.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Wondering if there is an activist type youtube something similar
> to
> > >> how
> > >> > > blogging is network23.org but for video ?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > x
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Quoting adelayde at riseup.net:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Nice one Ben.  I think we need to define what constitutes a
> > >> workshop
> > >> as
> > >> > > >> well, such as how much preparation / notes / handouts / slides
> > >> one
> > >> might
> > >> > > >> be expected to produce for such a thing....
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> or maybe I'm being too anal about it?
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> I guess my angle is that I think they need to be real, solid
> > >> workshops,
> > >> > > >> which I know a lot of them are, that can be turned into
> templates
> > >> and
> > >> > > >> handed to other people to provide and also share with others.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks for replying to this thread, I really want to get us on
> the
> > >> > > > road next year with some workshops to offer.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I think it should be up to the people running the workshops to
> > >> sort
> > >> > > > that out what resources they need. If they want to train in how
> to
> > >> > > > teach and build content, they should also take that on
> themselves.
> > >> > > > Let's just get our workshops out there and offered, the quality
> > >> > > > control can come after, and we've all been to each others
> > >> workshops
> > >> > > > anyway, so they can hopefully recall how good they were.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Templates are a fantastic plan, but let's just get them out
> there
> > >> and
> > >> > > > on offer first. It's part of the point of getting them on a
> public
> > >> > > > page is that we can point people to that page. In terms of
> > >> producing
> > >> > > > resources, I'd prefer to concentrating on "tech tools for
> > >> activists
> > >> > > > 2.0", as the response to it was so positive last time.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Cheers,
> > >> > > > ==
> > >> > > >  From Ben Green
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> > >> > > > HacktionLab mailing list
> > >> > > > HacktionLab at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> > > > https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/hacktionlab
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Message: 10
> > >> > > Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 10:35:20 +0100
> > >> > > From: m3shrom <m3shrom at riseup.net>
> > >> > > To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Another Call to Fill in a Table
> > >> > > Message-ID: <4E391658.3030103 at riseup.net>
> > >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On 03/08/2011 10:08, enjoyeverymoment at riseup.net wrote:
> > >> > > > Wondering if there is an activist type youtube something similar
> > >> to
> > >> how
> > >> > > > blogging is network23.org but for video ?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > http://engagemedia.org
> > >> > > http://politube.org/
> > >> > >
> > >> > > and northern and london indymedia also host video too.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'd be interested to hear about others as well.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > nice one
> > >> > > mick
> > >> > >
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> > >> > --
> > >> > Victoria Sinclair (Project Manager Generate Project and director
> > >> ArcSpace
> > >> > Manchester)
> > >> > www.arcspacemanchester.org.uk
> > >>
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