[HacktionLab] PROPOSAL: Re: general proposal to network x

[Gringoben]

Make that 3:2 as I also know that MIR can record IP addresses / user agents and that IMC UK admins use that facility on an almost weekly basis. Those who continue to deny it are either outright liars, ignorant to MIR features and IMC UK administration or simply being dishonest to themselves and others on the basis that the logged data is only held in memory and not automatically saved to permanent storage.

I totally disagree that Mark should be sanctioned for pointing out the truth and think it is reasonably relevant to the proposal being discussed in this thread.

Ben (another ex IMC uk admin)





On 12 Jan 2011, at 02:36 PM, "Ben Green" <ben at bristolwireless.net> wrote:

> Quoting "Garcon du Monde" <gdm at fifthhorseman.net>:
> 
>>> > > I used to be an admin of that site and I know that it can, and
>>> > > frequently does, record IPs and user_agent strings.
>>> >
>>> > right. i am normally not known as somebody who jumps in to defend
>>> > indymedia.org.uk, however, what are you spreading here is FUD
>>> > ( and that is where i file it under), unless you know something nobody
>>> > here is aware of ( and afaik there are quite a few ex-imc uk admins on
>>> > this list).
> 
> I do not agree that mark at activix.org should be banned. The position does appear to be that one person claims to have witnessed IP logging, and I recall has held that position in the past. Three people claim otherwise. Given the ratio is only 3:1 I would personally consider that inconclusive. Given this is a contentious issue, perhaps a third party could be given read only access to the server in question and be allowed to make an audit? I'd be happy to do this.
> 
> In general though, please take Indymedia bun fights elsewhere, like really very elsewhere.
> 
> Cheers,
> ==
> From Ben Green
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