[HacktionLab] ogg camp

[Ben Green]

Quoting Zoe Young <zoe at esemplastic.net>:

> and it raises questions about people who don't fit into this  
> community very well
>
> What if you are - or have been - contributing as much as you could  
> to the 'community', and yet you lose energy, partly because you feel  
> that you aren't being heard? Do you still have no right to a say?

You still have every right, but are too despondent or unskilled to use  
it. Come to Barncamp.

> What if you don't have the courage, confidence, access, time,  
> language, ability, awareness etc to contribute to the 'community' in  
> the first place? Do you still have no right to a say?

Attend some assertiveness training then come to Barncamp.

> What if you really, really want to use free software, and to find a  
> way to contribute to the community within your particular  
> limitations, but you haven't found a way that fits the way you are  
> in the world, your immediate concerns and forms of action?

Come to Barncamp.

>
> what real encouragement, facilitation is there for such outsiders to  
> make ourselves heard? how can we realistically contribute to a  
> community if we are, for any reason not comfortable stepping into  
> it, eg attending a barncamp is a step far too far for most activists?

Damn, that's us stuffed then.

> this is basically why I started this discussion - by agreeing with  
> someone else's comment that there could be value in some tech  
> activists thinking a bit more politically .. which I understood in  
> terms of paying attention to who tends to be excluded by certain  
> ways of working, and how this could be rebalanced a little further  
> in the future...??

Well our idea was Barncamp, so I guess we'll need to re-think that,  
any suggestions?

Cheers,
==
 From Ben Green