[HacktionLab] We need to talk about Facebook

[Dave Hollis]

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Hi,

I think there is no simple answer, not even a set of simple answers.

In my experience it is a question of showing what are the concrete
negative benefits that could come out of using FB (or whatever) in the
particular field I am involved in: self-organisation in the workplace.

There are particularly good examples of how dangerous it is to
organise on, say, FB, and relatively easy then to extrapolate.

Our recent experience in the case of steel works that is to be closed
is that there is a fair bit of resentment among the workforce to
having to join facebook in order to participate in the platform run by
the works council and the union in the factory. We have profited from
that and tried to strengthen this sentiment by explaining that users
of FB are the commodities. Also the aspects of data protection and
being traceable are other obvious negative points when talking about FB.

Be that all as that may, these are just attempts and ideas. We are
just scratching the surface here.  We'd be more that happy to have and
develop others. Just stumbling in the dark and thankful for any rays
of light.

Best wishes,

Dave



On 28.11.2012 00:33, Gzikskud wrote:
> Hello
> 
> trying to drag it back on topic, to me the problem is in two
> parts;
> 
> 1. we need to find a way to the message to the kids, the 12 year
> old's to think about the platform they use, and why they should
> consider their privacy. This will be a long campaign and one that
> we have to plan for.
> 
> 2. A platform that works for them, that offers them something that
> FB does not, I don't have an answer on what that would be?
> 
> 
> My view is the vast majority of FB users will continue to use it
> along with other platforms, so we almost have to say we have lost
> this generation and concentrate on the next... lets start with
> local community based websites target schools/colleges that they
> can be involved in the running of their own communities online.
> 
> Gzik
> 
> 
> On 27/11/2012 22:35, penguin wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I feel this has gone quite a way from "We need to talk about
>> Facebook" - if people want to carry on this thread, any chance of
>> changing the subject line.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> On 27/11/12 22:32, mp wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27/11/12 23:06, Garcon du Monde wrote:
>>>> personally, i have better things to worry about: global 
>>>> capitalism
>> 
>>> which is what funds "peer-reviewed" science.
>> 
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