[HacktionLab] [Fwd: Re: [Noisysquare] [Fwd: HacktionLab (Bristol, UK) on (post) OHM & N^2]

Patrice Riemens patrice at xs4all.nl
Thu Aug 8 13:14:15 UTC 2013


FYI.

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Subject: Re: [Noisysquare] [Fwd: HacktionLab (Bristol, UK)  on (post) OHM
& N^2
From:    "Sacha van Geffen" <sacha at greenhost.nl>
Date:    Thu, August 8, 2013 15:08
To:      noisysquare at noisysquare.com
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Hi,

There was one particular discussion at which some people voiced concerns
about people from FoXIT or other security companies getting in, not the
organization. The outcome was that for this particular discussion they
were allowed in as well. The question raised there wasa legitimate one,
the security firms represent power inequality, if you have ever been the
victim of (any) state harrassment you can feel very insecure when they
are around, and that will change the discussion. In the end however it
was clear that N^2 was more about inclusiveness and dialogue.

I was totally disgusted by how the organization was constantly making
allegations and treats towards N^2 and apparently spreading
misinformation and overstatements. They were completely overworked and
unreasonable and unprofessional. N^2 has done all it could to
de-escalate, discuss and mitigate all of the unnecessary problems that
arose.

Cheers, Sacha

ps. feel free to cross post this to the other list


On 08-08-13 14:12, Patrice Riemens wrote:
> FYI
>
> Context: I've been R-ing FC on several lists (French, UK, DK and NO) to
> (try to) get a clearer picture of the 'issues' at OHM. This is the first
> to come back. The last para in messg 2 (Martin) is new to me - and I must
> add, if true, slightly disquieting.
>
> Cheerio, p+5-3D!
>
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: HacktionLab Digest, Vol 64, Issue 2
> From:    hacktionlab-request at lists.aktivix.org
> Date:    Thu, August 8, 2013 14:01
> To:      hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
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>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: post-OHM2013 (Patrice Riemens)
>    2. Re: post-OHM2013 (Martin (Crypt))
>    3. Re: post-OHM2013 (ekes)
>
>
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