[HacktionLab] HacktionLab Digest, Vol 113, Issue 7

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Thu Mar 22 15:36:52 UTC 2018 

No, Mastodon is an open, federated & decentralised Twitter replacement for when you reach the point when what you read on Twitter in the morning makes you puke/throw phone/computer at the wall!

https://joinmastodon.org/

I'm in there (mainly on https://mastodon.social/)and have to say it's much nicer with moar cats and geeks (and Japanese people!).

Whether Diaspora will ever replace FB remains to be seen but it's had 10 odd years to happen and hasn't so far...

Fact remains, for all it's evils, where else can you find all your old mates hanging out online in once convenient place? 

Perhaps what we need is to each have out own personal free and open "Facebooks" (Diaspora/WordPress whatever) we host ourselves (we're pretty much at the point where this is easily do-able for many of us using prebuilt stacks using Docker etc) then federate between 'ourselves' to suit our personal needs. 

"But how will we cover the hosting costs"? I hear you say....

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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 14:01:46 +0000
> From: Mick <mickfuzz at clearerchannel.org>
> To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
> Subject: [HacktionLab] Mastodon
> Message-ID: <587eabed-f0e9-50bc-2860-816d0f983e66 at clearerchannel.org>
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> So is this Mastodon
> 
> how do you find it?
> 
> On 22/03/2018 13:06, hamish campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> Long time no see, am doing lots of outreach #openweb projects
>> https://github.com/Openmedianetwork all the iner-working are on the
>> wiki's.
>> 
>> Projects live at mo
>> https://github.com/Openmedianetwork/openweb/wiki/State-of-the-OMN-project-03-18
>> 
>> More coming soon. We have funding to pay for servers for 2 years and
>> hope to make them self funding in the first years to be handed over to
>> the sys-admins and moderators to be DIY run #openweb projects.
>> 
>> Hamish
>> 
>> On 22 March 2018 at 12:01, <hacktionlab-request at lists.aktivix.org
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> ? ?1. Facebook exodus & where are people going (Mick)
>> ? ?2. Re: Facebook exodus & where are people going (Marcus Valentine)
>> ? ?3. Re: Facebook exodus & where are people going
>> ? ? ? (sam at bristolwireless.net <mailto:sam at bristolwireless.net>)
>> ? ?4. Re: Facebook exodus & where are people going (Ben Green)
>> ? ?5. Re: Facebook exodus & where are people going (Ben Green)
>> ? ?6. Re: Facebook exodus & where are people going (Encosianima)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:33:22 +0000
>> From: Mick <mickfuzz at clearerchannel.org
>> <mailto:mickfuzz at clearerchannel.org>>
>> To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
>> <mailto:hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Subject: [HacktionLab] Facebook exodus & where are people going
>> Message-ID:
>> <010aba7e-8e08-16f5-30dd-a9178f9df258 at clearerchannel.org
>> <mailto:010aba7e-8e08-16f5-30dd-a9178f9df258 at clearerchannel.org>>
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>> Facebook exodus - Any thoughts?
>> Where are people going?
>> 
>> I would be up for doing diaspora again if there was a critical mass.
>> I am not going to use snapchat & whatsapp BTW - but is that what
>> people
>> would use instead?
>> G+?
>> 
>> Mozilla's campaign seems to be conflict a bit with their messages
>> about
>> supporting the open web or is that just me.
>> 
>> https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_c
>> mpaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095
>> <https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_
>> ampaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095>
>> 
>> Mick
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:37:00 +0000
>> From: Marcus Valentine <marcus at marcusv.org
>> <mailto:marcus at marcusv.org>>
>> To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
>> <mailto:hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Facebook exodus & where are people going
>> Message-ID: <4d4008ca-a4ed-62a1-0f56-7eb749f2d756 at marcusv.org
>> <mailto:4d4008ca-a4ed-62a1-0f56-7eb749f2d756 at marcusv.org>>
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>> 
>> For messaging - signal is excellent
>> 
>> https://signal.org
>> 
>> As recommended at Barncamp last year.
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> On 21/03/2018 13:33, Mick wrote:
>>> Facebook exodus - Any thoughts?
>>> Where are people going?
>>> 
>>> I would be up for doing diaspora again if there was a critical mass.
>>> I am not going to use snapchat & whatsapp BTW - but is that what
>> people
>>> would use instead?
>>> G+?
>>> 
>>> Mozilla's campaign seems to be conflict a bit with their
>> messages about
>>> supporting the open web or is that just me.
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_c
>> mpaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095
>> <https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_
>> ampaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095>
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:04:21 +0000
>> From: sam at bristolwireless.net <mailto:sam at bristolwireless.net>
>> To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
>> <mailto:hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Facebook exodus & where are people going
>> Message-ID:
>> ? ? ? ?
>> <20180321150421.Horde.1_AObE02LEIuP-Ewb0y9yft at slackmail.co.uk
>> <mailto:20180321150421.Horde.1_AObE02LEIuP-Ewb0y9yft at slackmail.co.uk>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed";
>> ? ? ? ? DelSp="Yes"
>> 
>> All the cool kids (by which I mean a small subset of greying hackers)
>> are on Scuttlebutt
>> 
>> http://dinosaur.is/patchwork-downloader
>> <http://dinosaur.is/patchwork-downloader>
>> 
>> You'd find me as sam_uk
>> 
>> @4xqgty3pil6QW3CoO1RcuTFGRuhsTcp+jGZvA6aCSAo=.ed25519
>> 
>> 2p
>> 
>> Sam
>> 
>> Quoting Marcus Valentine <marcus at marcusv.org
>> <mailto:marcus at marcusv.org>>:
>> 
>>> For messaging - signal is excellent
>>> 
>>> https://signal.org
>>> 
>>> As recommended at Barncamp last year.
>>> 
>>> Marcus
>>> 
>>> On 21/03/2018 13:33, Mick wrote:
>>>> Facebook exodus - Any thoughts?
>>>> Where are people going?
>>>> 
>>>> I would be up for doing diaspora again if there was a critical
>> mass.
>>>> I am not going to use snapchat & whatsapp BTW - but is that
>> what people
>>>> would use instead?
>>>> G+?
>>>> 
>>>> Mozilla's campaign seems to be conflict a bit with their
>> messages about
>>>> supporting the open web or is that just me.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_c
>> mpaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095
>> <https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_
>> ampaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095>
>>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:44:05 +0000
>> From: Ben Green <ben at bristolwireless.net
>> <mailto:ben at bristolwireless.net>>
>> To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
>> <mailto:hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Facebook exodus & where are people going
>> Message-ID:
>> ? ? ? ?
>> <20180321164405.Horde.mqs7jbB-PQxtN_Gf-lIlgc8 at slackmail.co.uk
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>> I've followed the various instructions for a while, broken or missing
>> servers, invite links that don't work. I think this is like IRC with
>> the difference that this doesn't work.
>> 
>> Quoting sam at bristolwireless.net <mailto:sam at bristolwireless.net>:
>> 
>>> All the cool kids (by which I mean a small subset of greying
>>> hackers) are on Scuttlebutt
>>> 
>>> http://dinosaur.is/patchwork-downloader
>> <http://dinosaur.is/patchwork-downloader>
>>> 
>>> You'd find me as sam_uk
>>> 
>>> @4xqgty3pil6QW3CoO1RcuTFGRuhsTcp+jGZvA6aCSAo=.ed25519
>>> 
>>> 2p
>>> 
>>> Sam
>>> 
>>> Quoting Marcus Valentine <marcus at marcusv.org
>> <mailto:marcus at marcusv.org>>:
>>> 
>>>> For messaging - signal is excellent
>>>> 
>>>> https://signal.org
>>>> 
>>>> As recommended at Barncamp last year.
>>>> 
>>>> Marcus
>>>> 
>>>> On 21/03/2018 13:33, Mick wrote:
>>>>> Facebook exodus - Any thoughts?
>>>>> Where are people going?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would be up for doing diaspora again if there was a critical
>> mass.
>>>>> I am not going to use snapchat & whatsapp BTW - but is that
>> what people
>>>>> would use instead?
>>>>> G+?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mozilla's campaign seems to be conflict a bit with their
>> messages about
>>>>> supporting the open web or is that just me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_c
>> mpaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095
>> <https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_
>> ampaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095>
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:48:16 +0000
>> From: Ben Green <ben at bristolwireless.net
>> <mailto:ben at bristolwireless.net>>
>> To: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
>> <mailto:hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Facebook exodus & where are people going
>> Message-ID:
>> ? ? ? ?
>> <20180321164816.Horde.T9z18sDktiw-bE6EagzkS04 at slackmail.co.uk
>> <mailto:20180321164816.Horde.T9z18sDktiw-bE6EagzkS04 at slackmail.co.uk>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
>> 
>> Got it working, now it's a bit more like news groups but with less
>> control of what gets downloaded.
>> 
>> Quoting Ben Green <ben at bristolwireless.net
>> <mailto:ben at bristolwireless.net>>:
>> 
>>> I've followed the various instructions for a while, broken or
>>> missing servers, invite links that don't work. I think this is like
>>> IRC with the difference that this doesn't work.
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:26:19 +0000
>> From: Encosianima <encosianima at riseup.net
>> <mailto:encosianima at riseup.net>>
>> To: Ben Green <ben at bristolwireless.net
>> <mailto:ben at bristolwireless.net>>
>> Cc: hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org
>> <mailto:hacktionlab at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Subject: Re: [HacktionLab] Facebook exodus & where are people going
>> Message-ID: <b8beca0e-629c-47dd-9395-05749e123457 at riseup.net
>> <mailto:b8beca0e-629c-47dd-9395-05749e123457 at riseup.net>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I'll be short: Riot.im can easily bridge IRC and implementing
>> etherpad in a central an ergonomic position can really do the
>> trick (of getting people talk together to make plots to change
>> existing rules)
>> 
>> Why don't we give it a try?
>> 
>> Vale
>> 
>> ?Knowledge is distributed across a network of connections, and
>> therefore that
>> learning consists of the ability to construct and traverse those
>> networks? [Downes, 2012]?
>> 
>> On 21 Mar 2018, 16:45, at 16:45, Ben Green
>> <ben at bristolwireless.net <mailto:ben at bristolwireless.net>> wrote:
>>> I've followed the various instructions for a while, broken or missing
>>> servers, invite links that don't work. I think this is like IRC with
>>> the difference that this doesn't work.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Quoting sam at bristolwireless.net <mailto:sam at bristolwireless.net>:
>>> 
>>>> All the cool kids (by which I mean a small subset of greying
>>>> hackers) are on Scuttlebutt
>>>> 
>>>> http://dinosaur.is/patchwork-downloader
>> <http://dinosaur.is/patchwork-downloader>
>>>> 
>>>> You'd find me as sam_uk
>>>> 
>>>> @4xqgty3pil6QW3CoO1RcuTFGRuhsTcp+jGZvA6aCSAo=.ed25519
>>>> 
>>>> 2p
>>>> 
>>>> Sam
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Marcus Valentine <marcus at marcusv.org
>> <mailto:marcus at marcusv.org>>:
>>>> 
>>>>> For messaging - signal is excellent
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://signal.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> As recommended at Barncamp last year.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21/03/2018 13:33, Mick wrote:
>>>>>> Facebook exodus - Any thoughts?
>>>>>> Where are people going?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would be up for doing diaspora again if there was a critical
>>> mass.
>>>>>> I am not going to use snapchat & whatsapp BTW - but is that what
>>> people
>>>>>> would use instead?
>>>>>> G+?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mozilla's campaign seems to be conflict a bit with their messages
>>> about
>>>>>> supporting the open web or is that just me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_
>> ampaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095
>> <https://foundation.mozilla.org/campaigns/facebook/?utm_source=newsletter-mofo&utm_medium=email&utm_
>> ampaign=facebook&utm_term=4619095>
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