[LAF] dates, venues, speakers and messiahs

christian michel chr.michel at gmail.com
Sat Aug 20 07:13:54 UTC 2005


From: christian michel <chr.michel at gmail.com>
Date: 20-Aug-2005 07:54
Subject: Re: [LAF] dates, venues, speakers and messiahs
To: steve ash <steveash_2001 at yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: laf at lists.aktivix.org

 Re Venues

Thanks Steve. For 'socials', any one of these venues would suit me fine. 
Also all 3 are easy to get to. When it comes to talks/debates however, I 
find the pub/café atmosphere distracting. After all they were never intended 
to host a group of brainy folks trying to follow one of them rambling thru 
her notes. Also if I hv to part with a few coins, I prefer to give them to 
FP (but that's because I'm happy to drink instant coffee!). That's me. What 
do others think? Remember we are only deciding for period until year end. 

 Re Dates

I'm sure none of us will be able to attend all events twice a month. 
Whatever the day chosen, we'll hv other things interfering. What's at stake 
here is choosing a day that will allow building a critical mass of 
participants. Saturday afternoon is not ideal, but probably better than say 
Sunday. Again, we can reschedule in January. 

 Re Speakers

Stephen has given very interesting talks, Ian (Buxton) too, Justin of 
course, and I'm sure others. So we have a reserve army of speakers ready to 
be exploited, plus of course many imported ones from other forums. So if all 
of you who want to speak, or know someone who would, could pick a date and 
inform our Chief Programmer Justin, we could start our advertising campaign. 


 Re Messiahs

Don't follow too closely the messiah scene, but with number 4, I thought I 
was on the safe side! (Joy, was hoping I looked more like an angel than a 
messiah!) 
 
Christian


On 20/08/05, steve ash <steveash_2001 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> I already have my own events I'm organising on the 3rd
> Sept and 1st Oct (I tend to use the 1st Sat of the 
> month) but if you want to schedule something boring
> for these days thats fine by me :)
> 
> That wasn't a reference to u Justin :)))
> 
> Steve
> 
> --- laf-request at lists.aktivix.org wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: LAF2 (christian michel)
> > 2. Re: 19th Century Bombs (Joy Wood)
> > 3. Re: LAF2 (Joy Wood)
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 19:04:12 +0100
> > From: christian michel < chr.michel at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [LAF] LAF2
> > To: LONDON EVENTS <londonevents2004 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > Cc: LAF LIST < laf at lists.aktivix.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <df2c327a05081911046cde4669 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 
> >
> > Hi to all
> >
> > I would like to put to bed this issue of day and
> > dates as I would like to
> > start advertising the LAF debates on the PFA list
> > (abt 300 recipients), the
> > PSE list (80+), my own groupies (confidential!) and
> > at the French Institute
> > where I moderate a debate every other Saturday
> > morning. This is the time of
> > the year to advertise new series. A good blurb shud 
> > bring enough bodies to
> > fill in the room at FP every other Sat pm, as
> > discussed. I know it's unfair
> > to Steve, but unless someone comes up with a better
> > alternative that will be
> > fair to all, I'm afraid we're going to be discussing 
> > this issue of dates and
> > venues until the advent of the fourth messiah.
> >
> > So again, subject to a better idea agreed to by
> > next week, can we schedule
> > debates at FP on
> > 3rd and 17th September, 
> >
> > 1st, 15th and 29th Oct.,
> >
> > 12th and 26th Nov.,
> >
> > 10th Dec.
> >
> > please?
> >
> > By yr end, it will again be an appropriate time to
> > change day/venue if new 
> > consensus is arrived at.
> >
> > Justin, do you want to present yr paper on
> > "ideologies and political
> > typologies" on 3rd Sept ?
> >
> > Any idea for speaker/topic for 17th Sept? 
> >
> > I think I hv somebody who could do 1 oct.
> >
> > I am all in favour of boozy "social" gatherings at
> > any time, but please
> > let's keep the speakers/talks to our regular Sats 
> > meetings (or whatever day
> > is chosen) or we'll run out of speakers and confuse
> > list members.
> >
> > Pse let me hv yr flak/comment/approval/alternatives
> > asap so we can start
> > advertising the events and dates. 
> >
> > Christian
> >
> >
> > On 19/08/05, LONDON EVENTS
> > <londonevents2004 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sats would be fine with me but Streve is working 
> > Sats so it really should
> > > be another day for Socials, Friday at CH is good (
> > seems to suit most
> > > people)as long as we get a good speaker/topic
> > > and as I said we could still have discussions (if 
> > people will turn up) at
> > > FP on Sats
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > *derek axion <derekaxion at yahoo.co.uk>* wrote:
> > >
> > > as sunday socials just don't hit the spot, i vote 
> > for saturdays
> > > *LONDON EVENTS <londonevents2004 at yahoo.co.uk>*
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > For some reason this post did not come through 
> > first time
> > > Hi
> > > Its a great idea to have social meetings but
> > difficult to agree on a venue
> > > Prehaps we should bite the bullet and agree on a
> > regular meeting at Conway 
> > > Hall
> > > on a Friday in Sep, we need a really good speaket
> > though to attract new
> > > people
> > > We have £17.00 in hand the exact cost of the room
> > > So JUSTIN comrade programme organiser what can you 
> > come up with?
> > > also WHICH Friday in Sep I think its between
> > 2nd(too early?) 9th, 16th ,
> > > 23rd and 30th
> > > so we even have an extra one
> > > Think on it, we could still have socials - how 
> > about Sundays- and Sat
> > > meets at FP
> > > if no body minds
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > *Ian Gregory <aktiv at zenatode.org.uk>* wrote: 
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 09:29:39AM +0100, LONDON
> > EVENTS wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have found the Pen Oak to be one of the least
> > noisy pubs around at
> > > > least at times and not always that full- 
> > > > I prefer central london, (Holborn) but dont have
> > Steves Travel problems
> > > > ts going to be difficult to suit everyone but we
> > should try
> > > > Any one know of another pub nr Holborn thats not 
> > noisy?
> > > > I know one but its always full because people
> > like it not being noisy
> > >
> > > Hi Ed,
> > >
> > > I must admit that I hardly ever go into pubs, and
> > when I do it is
> > > usually a quiet Hertfordshire one. Perhaps I
> > underestimate the
> > > difficulty of finding a pub in Central London that
> > is quiet at
> > > 8:00 pm on Friday:-) 
> > >
> > > Also, it seems odd to think of Holborn as Central
> > London but not
> > > Kings Cross. I think of both of them as Central,
> > as opposed to
> > > Finsbury Park for ex! ! ample. But then I think of 
> > Trafalgar Square
> > > as more central than either - speaking of which,
> > the Crypt at
> > > St. Martin in the Fields is more my idea of a good
> > meeting place,
> > > though I expect it is not everyone's:-) 
> > >
> > > If there is a largish group of us meeting then I
> > don't really mind
> > > where it is, though the lower the ambient noise
> > the better. But if
> > > it is the sort of meeting where people might or 
> > might not show I
> > > would like it to be somewhere that would be cool
> > even if I ended
> > > up there on my own.
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:01:11 +0000
> > From: "Joy Wood" <joy_helbin at hotmail.com >
> > Subject: Re: [LAF] LAF2
> > To: chr.michel at gmail.com,
> > londonevents2004 at yahoo.co.uk
> > Cc: laf at lists.aktivix.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <BAY102-F8B7E957FFD0DA9DC9A165E8B50 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> > 
> > Have I missed something: who was the THIRD one, or
> > is that you, Christian?
> >
> >
> > >From: christian michel <chr.michel at gmail.com>
> > >To: LONDON EVENTS < londonevents2004 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > >CC: LAF LIST <laf at lists.aktivix.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [LAF] LAF2
> > >Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 19:04:12 +0100 
> > >
> > > Hi to all
> > >
> > >I would like to put to bed this issue of day and
> > dates as I would like to
> > >start advertising the LAF debates on the PFA list
> > (abt 300 recipients), the 
> > >PSE list (80+), my own groupies (confidential!) and
> > at the French Institute
> > >where I moderate a debate every other Saturday
> > morning. This is the time of
> > >the year to advertise new series. A good blurb shud 
> > bring enough bodies to
> > >fill in the room at FP every other Sat pm, as
> > discussed. I know it's unfair
> > >to Steve, but unless someone comes up with a better
> > alternative that will 
> > >be
> > >fair to all, I'm afraid we're going to be
> > discussing this issue of dates
> > >and
> > >venues until the advent of the fourth messiah.
> > >
> > > So again, subject to a better idea agreed to by 
> > next week, can we
> > >schedule
> > >debates at FP on
> > >3rd and 17th September,
> > >
> > >1st, 15th and 29th Oct.,
> > >
> > >12th and 26th Nov.,
> > >
> > >10th Dec.
> > >
> > >please?
> > >
> > > By yr end, it will again be an appropriate time
> > to change day/venue if
> > >new
> > >consensus is arrived at.
> > > 
> > > Justin, do you want to present yr paper on
> > "ideologies and political
> > >typologies" on 3rd Sept ?
> > >
> > > Any idea for speaker/topic for 17th Sept?
> > > 
> > > I think I hv somebody who could do 1 oct.
> > >
> > > I am all in favour of boozy "social" gatherings
> > at any time, but please
> > >let's keep the speakers/talks to our regular Sats 
> > meetings (or whatever day
> > >is chosen) or we'll run out of speakers and confuse
> > list members.
> > >
> > > Pse let me hv yr
> > flak/comment/approval/alternatives asap so we can 
> > start
> > >advertising the events and dates.
> > >
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> > >On 19/08/05, LONDON EVENTS
> > < londonevents2004 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sats would be fine with me but Streve is working
> > Sats so it really
> > >should
> > > > be another day for Socials, Friday at CH is good 
> > ( seems to suit most
> > > > people)as long as we get a good speaker/topic
> > > > and as I said we could still have discussions
> > (if people will turn up)
> > >at
> > > > FP on Sats 
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > *derek axion <derekaxion at yahoo.co.uk>* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > as sunday socials just don't hit the spot, i 
> > vote for saturdays
> > > > *LONDON EVENTS <londonevents2004 at yahoo.co.uk>*
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For some reason this post did not come through 
> > first time
> > > > Hi
> > > > Its a great idea to have social meetings but
> > difficult to agree on a
> > >venue
> > > > Prehaps we should bite the bullet and agree on a
> > regular meeting at
> > >Conway
> > > > Hall
> > > > on a Friday in Sep, we need a really good
> > speaket though to attract new
> > > > people
> > > > We have £17.00 in hand the exact cost of the 
> > room
> > > > So JUSTIN comrade programme organiser what can
> > you come up with?
> > > > also WHICH Friday in Sep I think its between
> > 2nd(too early?) 9th, 16th ,
> > > > 23rd and 30th 
> > > > so we even have an extra one
> > > > Think on it, we could still have socials - how
> > about Sundays- and Sat
> > > > meets at FP
> > > > if no body minds
> > > > Ed 
> > > >
> > > > *Ian Gregory <aktiv at zenatode.org.uk>* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 09:29:39AM +0100, LONDON
> > EVENTS wrote: 
> > > >
> > > > > I have found the Pen Oak to be one of the
> > least noisy pubs around at
> > > > > least at times and not always that full-
> > > > > I prefer central london, (Holborn) but dont 
> > have Steves Travel
> > >problems
> > > > > ts going to be difficult to suit everyone but
> > we should try
> > > > > Any one know of another pub nr Holborn thats
> > not noisy? 
> > > > > I know one but its always full because people
> > like it not being noisy
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ed,
> > > >
> > > > I must admit that I hardly ever go into pubs, 
> > and when I do it is
> > > > usually a quiet Hertfordshire one. Perhaps I
> > underestimate the
> > > > difficulty of finding a pub in Central London
> > that is quiet at
> > > > 8:00 pm on Friday:-) 
> > > >
> > > > Also, it seems odd to think of Holborn as
> > Central London but not
> > > > Kings Cross. I think of both of them as Central,
> > as opposed to
> > > > Finsbury Park for ex! ! ample. But then I think 
> > of Trafalgar Square
> > > > as more central than either - speaking of which,
> > the Crypt at
> > > > St. Martin in the Fields is more my idea of a
> > good meeting place,
> > > > though I expect it is not everyone's:-) 
> > > >
> > > > If there is a largish group of us meeting then I
> > don't really mind
> > > > where it is, though the lower the ambient noise
> > the better. But if
> > > > it is the sort of meeting where people might or 
> > might not show I
> > > > would like it to be somewhere that would be cool
> > even if I ended
> > > > up there on my own.
> > > >
> > > > Ian
> > > >
>
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