[LAF] BDSM, a liberty too far?

Volodya Volodya at WhenGendarmeSleeps.org
Fri Feb 1 10:17:59 UTC 2008


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Joy Wood wrote:
>  What struck me the most was the way BDSM participants use communication
> and pay attention to each other to continually check with each other if
> they're all happy with the situation.  MAYBE THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO
> DANGEROUS - that is not the way mainstream society carries on atall
> atall, let alone in their sex lives.  If mainstream society employed
> communication and consideration of other people there would be minimal
> rape and, when rape did occur, society would admit that violence was
> happening and not put rape under the same heading as mainstream sex and
> simply dismiss it as normal intercourse.  Normal it might be in today's
> society but I'd like to see everyone learning from the BDSM community
> and individuals, instead of acting like most non-BDSM people do who
> enter sexual encounters without negotiating first and with assumptions
> that if they get off on something then their potential partner(s) must
> also get off on that same thing unless of course there's something wrong
> with them.  Mainstream sexuality as it is at the moment should be
> outlawed or banned, not BDSM, until the mainstreamers get their act
> together.
> 
>     Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:50:16 +0000
>     From: barryjodea at yahoo.co.uk
>     To: antines at yahoo.co.uk; laf at lists.aktivix.org
>     Subject: [LAF] BDSM, a liberty too far?
> 
>     Thanks for your very interesting talk yesterday Comrade Melanie, it
>     threw up some very interesting issues of personal and sexual freedom
>     that are being reduced or eroded with the new Bill. For how much
>     longer do we have to put up with the Bobby in the Bedroom?  And for
>     what purpose exactly does the state seek to regulate our sex lives? 
>     Feel free to forward any other info on this to this site. 

Joy, i think that BDSM is "dangerous" to the establishment in the society
because of what you describe. In my opinion in order for the choice to be
informed, a person must be willing and able to discuss the effects of that
choice with others. And in our today's society we are seeing that "normal" sex
is seen as consensual by default, even when one or even all the participants
have no understanding of what are the consequences.

Sucks that i couldn't be at that talk.

                  - Volodya

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