[LAF] FW: gender issue

[Ed McArthur]

I don't deny that women pay for sexual services as well,  I suspect this is at the higher end of the market. not many desperate men selling themselves to predatory women
 
 I don't recall meeting any women who have the same sexist attitudes to men as most men have to Women - I think I can honestly say that it is most men I have met
and most I hear talking on the media.  They are not all unpleasant people, but there is definitely  an attitude that sees women only in sexual terms

My point is that the whole sex industry stems from this attitude
and I don't think we can wait for another million years of social evolution 
 
As things stand prostitution (selling sex for money)  is not illegal
soliciting is as is pimping and living off immoral earnings
 
If the customes were targeted it would be more of a deterrent than 
anything else, the pimps tend to be violent nasty men who would certainly
not put up with one of "their girls"  deciding to quit
 
My objections to legalisation  were stated in the previous post
It might make things better for some, but would mean more women
going into prostitution and perpetuate the attitudes that under pin the sex industry
 
I am NOT on a moral crusade against prostitutes, or illicit sex far from it 
but legalisation or sanatiation is not about sexual freedom as Joy has pointed out more than once (I don't incidentally accept  that there is  even  one good point in all of Judeo-Christian Morality)
 
As for Drugs yes certainly all the people you say benefit from the War Against Drugs
but legalisation would put them in the hands of the drug or tobacco industry
decriminalisation seems a better option
 
 Ed
 
 
 


Ed McArthur   07981  900  563            
 
 

www.eventsandissues.bravehost.com
see also
www.freewebs.com/bookevents
Conway Hall Sunday Concerts
www.conwayhallsundayconcerts.org.uk
www.freewebs.com/secularcivilrights
 
 
 
   
 
 

--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Ian Gregory <ianji at zenatode.org.uk> wrote:


From: Ian Gregory <ianji at zenatode.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [LAF] FW: gender issue
To: laf at lists.aktivix.org
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 4:18 PM


On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:38:51AM +0000, Ed McArthur wrote:

> The same applies to the sex industry, I agree with Joy, the law should not target the sex workers, but I am for targeting of customers/pimps/employers?

I understand your motivation Ed but I don't see how it makes sense to have a system in which it is legal to charge for sex but illegal to pay for it. The person providing the service would surely be guilty of aiding or abetting a criminal act and the whole thing would still have to operate underground, with all the negative implications for sex workers.

I am no fan of prostitution but I can't see it being eliminated so surely would be better to bring it into the open rather than have it hidden away in a criminal underworld. And isn't the suppression of prostitution in the West closely linked to Christian morality - not something you normally support.

Though there are certainly some fundamental differences I see it as being somewhat akin to the issue of recreational drugs. The drug war mainly benefits criminal gangs, private prisons, the law enforcement industry etc, and only adds to any harm caused by the drugs themselves.

And don't say that I am only supporting the right of men to pay women for sexual services because I equally support the right of women to pay men for the same - something that is a great deal more prevalent than many people suspect [1]. As I said, it is not something I particularly condone (it would be nice if everyone got all the sex they wanted for free in mutually satisfying relationships or encounters) but I am loath to support any legislation outlawing private acts between consenting adults.

[1]: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7914639.stm

Ian

-- Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/

_______________________________________________
LAF mailing list
LAF at lists.aktivix.org
https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/laf



      
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/laf/attachments/20090803/039c6832/attachment.htm>