[LAF] anarcha-feminism

steve ash steveash_2001 at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jul 30 02:16:03 UTC 2009


Can you deal with issues and stop avoiding them?

--- On Mon, 27/7/09, Joy Wood <joy_helbin at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Joy Wood <joy_helbin at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [LAF] anarcha-feminism
> To: "steve ash" <steveash_2001 at yahoo.co.uk>, "LAF EMAIL LIST" <laf at lists.aktivix.org>
> Date: Monday, 27 July, 2009, 12:26 AM
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> > To Sarah the Troll, I would simply state I can't
> be a misogynist as I don't recognise a universalised
> gender or acknowledge the category 'woman', I treat
> everyone I meet as an individual not a stereotype and judge
> them on that basis. This is actually how most people
> naturally relate to each other, unfortunately most of them
> regard sex workers as 'sluts', and their sisters,
> mothers and gfs as not, but carry on using sex workers of
> course. So I don't see any negative effect on
> 'women-as-a-whole' out there, just bigotry against
> sex workers. 
> > 
> "Sarah the Troll" - this is a personal insult,
> and hence harassment, not an argument.  No-one should
> have to put up with it.  Stop harassing women.
> 
>  
> 
> As for you saying you treat people as individuals this is
> clearly not the case.  Sarah, Ed and I have similar
> views on matters of prostitution and we have stated them on
> this elist yet your attitude towards Ed is one of amused
> joshing, eg Ed is "naive" or "confused"
> this is markedly different from your blatant insults to
> women as being "feminazi" or "troll"
> which is no response to the argument at all but only an
> attempt to dismiss / invisiblise the real issue.  Your
> comment about "bigotry against sex workers"
> attempts to change the agenda of working against
> prostitution to instead a fabricated 'cat-fight'
> between imaginary enemies where, according to you, in one
> corner is a female sex worker and in the other is a feminazi
> bigot or, to use Volodya's preferred term, an
> 'anti-sex' antagonist.
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