[matilda] Improving the WIKI

Sat Aug 13 07:01:52 BST 2005

Hi dear Wiki writers,

Why not adding a section on the wiki for the purpose of improving the 
wiki itself? It may be improved if an RSS feeds aggregator (server side 
aggregator) could be added, to keep updated events and so on in an 
easier way. Have a look at

http://www.giftoftongues.co.uk/feedonfeeds/frames/

from where i have extracted this basic info about RSS feeds:

"Why is a server side aggregator better than a desktop aggregator?
Desktop aggregators are great.  They sit there all day, pinging away at 
sites, and as soon as they notice something new, they pop up little 
windows on your desktop, and let you read items.  But what about when 
you go home from work?  Or what about when you are on a trip?  You get 
totally out of sync, and don't know what you've read and haven't read. 
You are enraged.

A server side aggregator solves this.  It keeps track of what items 
you've read, and keeps happily checking up on your feeds no matter where 
you are.  Whenever you want to see what's new, you just bring up a web 
page and scan the newest items.  You can mark the items as read so they 
won't be shown again.  Or, you can just always show the most recent N 
items, like the way LiveJournal's friends pages work.  Also, having the 
aggregator in your browser eliminates the "impedance mismatch" that 
sometimes occurs between a desktop aggregator and your browser.  All 
your native browsing methods work on a FEED ON FEEDS page.  Open pages 
in new tabs, bookmark them for later, browse whatever way you like.
What are the requirements of FEED ON FEEDS?
Access to a server running modern versions of PHP and MySQL"

Cheers

amp

dan at aktivix.org wrote:

> It's not complicated - it's just quicker if someone runs through it.  Although
> it may not be!
> 
> Its (luckily) impossible to permanently wipe stuff. WIKI page history is always
> kept.  We've had problems with certain people maliciously wiping entire WIKI
> pages before - you can get them straight back.
> 
> Sorry, yeah - forgot about J & B!  Oops.
> 
> Dan
> 
> The Main Page of the WIKI 
> 
> Quoting Becky <noborders123 at onetel.com>:
> 
> 
>>only skimmed this but I thought it was going to be facilitated by J & B (ie
>>me) not J & L
>>not that I mind but I'd like to know
>>I've never tried to update a wiki and due to references to lessons being
>>required I now assume its complicated so won't try incase I delete it all or
>>something
>>- so can some one else change it to J & B (unless L passionately wants to
>>facilitate next week and will be there).
>>thanks
>>Becky
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Dan" <dan at aktivix.org>
>>To: "M.A.T.I.L.D.A." <matilda at lists.aktivix.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:48 AM
>>Subject: [matilda] Meeting notes
>>
>>
>>
>>>Allo me luvleez
>>>
>>>Meeting notes, including decision-making process stuff (some agreed on
>>>Monday, some parked for next week's meeting) can be found at
>>>
>>>http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/8th_August_Matilda_meeting
>>>
>>>and pasted below.
>>>
>>>Check new proposals. If anyone wants to veto, let us know. In case
>>>no-one knows, vetoing means that you object enough to want to bring the
>>>proposed event or use of space to the next meeting, where you'd have to
>>>discuss why you objected. (Its also a time for people to think up
>>>practical things to do with the event.
>>>
>>>It would be great - particularly for the curated art stuff - if people
>>>could add more detail to the WIKI. If anyone wants WIKI lessons, let me
>>>know. In the meantime, if WIKI ain't your bag, e-mail through more
>>>details to the list!
>>>
>>>Be good y'all
>>>
>>>love and admin-for-the-petit-bourgeoisie
>>>
>>>Dan
>>>----
>>>
>>>Proposals for events and new ideas for space
>>>
>>>1. Proposal: to open up the space from Oct 29th to Nov 27th for:
>>>1. a fringe event connected to Art Sheffield 05 – to be a curated open
>>>exhibition, including art from people in Matilda and others.
>>>2. To include an opening night on October 27th
>>>3. Show to look at Urban Decay
>>>4. The building will become part of the art!
>>>2. Issues from this:
>>>1. Need to sort out health and safety
>>>3. Proposal: dissent meeting to be hosted by MATILDA. Some time in
>>>October, could be about 60 people
>>>4. Proposal: Performance, rehearsal and research for social / local
>>>history. Done by the people who bought us the recent Chartist
>>>dramatisations in Paradise Square
>>>1. Suggestion from this: could research the history of the building...
>>>5. Proposal: acoustic open mike night – keeping the Thursday social
>>>separate. Maybe doing once a fortnight on a Friday.
>>>6. Proposal: OPPOSE THE WIDENING OF THE M1 - Meeting Tuesday 16th
>>>August, 7.30
>>>7. Proposal: create a piece of collective artwork
>>>
>>>Results of group work on decision-making and groundrules
>>>
>>>We brainstormed decision-making processes and groundrules processes.
>>>Some were clear cut, which we agreed could become instantly live (unless
>>>anyone complains in the next week!) Others have been parked until the
>>>next meeting. Live ones first, parked after
>>>
>>>Agreed
>>>
>>>* Keep WIKI updated
>>>* No quorum needed – veto and consensus instead
>>>* ”Weekly meetings plus 7, vetos explained at next meeting”??
>>>* Publicised, larger meetings as and when necessary
>>>* All processes to be outlined and explained on the WIKI
>>>
>>>Parked
>>>
>>>Some of these need working out, as they clash e.g. A week's automatic
>>>'take-a-break' or just 24 hours? Etc... to discuss at next meeting.
>>>
>>>1. If groundrules broken:
>>>1. Verbal warning first, from group present at the time
>>>2. Warning fed into whole group at a meeting
>>>
>>>Minimum initial 24 hour break from the space for the warned person
>>>
>>>1.
>>>1. Default of ban for a week
>>>2. If someone asks for one day ban extended, will be taken to next meeting
>>>3. Depending on case, ban til next meeting
>>>4. Make possibility of a total ban oper
>>>5. Reparations for damage
>>>6. Special role of the LTT, for now
>>>7. Potential use of mediation / independent pool of willing mediators to
>>>call on, if thought appropriate
>>>8. A third offence should be met with an automatic permanent ban
>>>9. Existing bans are continued until the following Monday's meeting
>>>10. Nothing to be set in stone!
>>>
>>>1. Groundrules additions and changes
>>>1. Re-phrase 'violence' into 'security', 'access'
>>>2. No disturbing or disruption of events taking place in the space
>>>
>>>AOB
>>>
>>>1. Fire escape – a new one needs to be built in the basement. This has
>>>started to be planned out.
>>>2. Report back from different groups – all is well!
>>>3. Meetings:
>>>1. 7.30 for 7.45 start from now on. To arrive at 7.30 to make your tea,
>>>smoke fags etc. Meeting will start at 7.45. (People are coming from as
>>>far a field as Chesterfield; they are having to hang around for half an
>>>hour before things start.)
>>>2. It is the facilitator's role to start exactly on time, at 7.45, and
>>>up to everyone else to be there!
>>>3. Facilitators to overlap: always have two, and keep one over to the
>>>next week.
>>>
>>>Next meeting
>>>
>>>* 7.30 for 7.45 – see above!
>>>* 7.15 for discussiing the agenda
>>>* Stick agenda items here or bring 'em at 7.15.
>>>* Facilitation by J and L
>>>
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>>>
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