[matilda] keys and maggots

[Jase]

> > if you are outside wanting to get in how a signing-out book inside
> > the building can help you then? Am I just been very stupid?
>
>
> Not at all. Guess you'd be in prior agreement with persons inside, so
> that you are certain that someone from your collective will be there to
> open door for you. The purpose of the keybook would be to keep track of
> each keyholder or
> keyholding person, not implying each key has to be placed back whenever
> that person is leaving the building. eg if you have the key for the time
> being, you keep it with you all time, even at your home and you are
> liable for what happens to that key, including writing down your
> details: your name, contact, date when the key was handed to you by the
>   LTT, and so on.

Imagine main problem with this would be that someone wants to get in and their
groups key is at work or on holiday etc. Could have a keyholder rota with
their name on the door, say one for each day, who would be ok coming down and
opening up should someone need access. The easiest, and safest, thing would be
to get the centre well enough used it's permenantly occupied anyways:)

> I don't know what an electronic key-pad system would do, what would
> the advantages be?
>

There are mechanical key pad locks (cheaper than electronic) with about five
numbered buttons. A 4 or 5 digit code (pressing the buttons in a particular
order) opens the lock. The code can be changed with little fuss. It means
people could be texted the code to get in should they need, so people who need
access can get in. Problem is it's arguably not as secure unless the code is
changed regularly and code locks cost from about £400 before fitting. Could be
ways of getting hold of cheaper I would've thought but with insurance and
stuff that might not be a route worth going down.

>
>
> Benjamin Major wrote:
>
> >
> > What are the security implications for a key-pad system with a code
> > that changes regularly? Is this a very expensive undertaking?
> >
> > The Commonplace have exactly the same problem with keys, you know,
> > and even after six months haven't solved it. But at the meeting on
> > Sunday I remember this was brought up as a future possibility. A
> > visting person (like myself) from a collective over in the States was
> >  going on about how easy they find it using a an electronic key-pad
> > system.
> >
> > But as far as keys go: Gav's understanding seems about right. Though
> >  I don't understand how if you are outside wanting to get in how a
> > signing-out book inside the building can help you then? Am I just
> > been very stupid?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: <gavin at cyber-rights.net> To: <matilda at lists.aktivix.org>,
> >> <robin_amparo at tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005
> >> 08:18:30 -0700
> >>
> >> Argh! Keys!
> >>
> >> I thought what was agreed was that each collective could copy
> >> itself a key and that they were then responsible for it. It was
> >> suggested by me that the best way to do that might be for each
> >> collective to have a 'signing out book' for their key so they knew
> >> who in the collective had it. And yes, it might be helpful
> >> collectives painted their key to indentify it to prevent mix ups.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:57:04 -0700 R&A <robin_amparo at tiscali.co.uk>
> >>  wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> another two options for the LTT,
> >>>
> >>> **Just label each key handed out with the recipient's name; write
> >>>  down that name on a kind of "key register book" or keybook
> >>> (might be done on wiki); and keep recording each key-related
> >>> data: date when key handed out, date when returned, copies made
> >>> of that key if any, by/for whom, and so on...
> >>>
> >>> **OR, Have a person continuously devoted to key handling as
> >>> porter, at a kind of reception desk, with separate key boxes as
> >>> in hotels perhaps.
> >>>
> >>> IMHO, the first option could be better, if ever necessary.
> >>>
> >>> o about maggots: cleaning and maintenance of public kitchen,
> >>> dining hall and toilet areas should be kept as an early priority
> >>>  don't you think, including rubbish handling,
> >>>
> >>> Triumphalistically,
> >>>
> >>> Leopoldo and Amp
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
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