[matilda] Proposals for next Monday & Inslusivity

[dan at aktivix.org]

Look, don't make me get out of my chair.  Coz once I've got out of my chair,
there's no sitting down again until I have at least one fresh human organ for
my tea later.

By God, Hobbes was right.  Fear's the only thing that'll keep the local hippies
in line. Fear of this psycho. Nn. Nn. Nnng. Auntie, nooo, not the calipers
again!

p.s. what's inslusivity?  Something involving sewage?

Quoting R&A <robin_amparo at tiscali.co.uk>:

> this is funny, childish, ??
> 
> 
>   I am
>  > disappointed that you and Eric have not managed to maintain the
>  > same level of respect and maturity. Please stop it.
> 
> this is even funnier,
> 
> Coming from you, gav,  because you don't fulfill any promise you've made 
> here so far to the matilda collective as a whole... because you don't 
> take heed of others suggestions and good will to help you in your own 
> proposals... you're like a horse with blinkers, and this is not to 
> offend you, aren't we all sometimes?
> 
> You were from the very beginning against any art05 exhibition.
> and i think it's you who owes us some explanation, apology, and more 
> respect.
> 
> 
> But let's face to face, 'cos i've made a pledge not to cause more 
> turmoil than you've already stirred.
> 
> 
> 
> amp
> 
> 
> gavin at cyber-rights.net wrote:
> 
> > Dear Amp,
> > 
> > I'm presuming this childish mudslinging of yours is directed at me. 
> > I was not raising 'ambigous accusations.' I was not raising 
> > accusations at all. I was asking questions which were raised in 
> > discussion between matilda and the art collective on Monday. We all 
> > agreed to make it an agenda issue for next week, I just posted it 
> > to the list. I'm already wishing I'd let someone else do it.
> > 
> > 
> >>Everybody can rest assured that we 
> >>are trying to be as inclusive as possible,
> > 
> > 
> > No, they can't. People were concerned on Monday that the art 
> > collective is not as open to new artists as it could be. I do hope 
> > you'd all want it to be open and inclusive, the more so the better, 
> > so people wanted to look at how this could be improved in practice. 
> > This is why the issue has been raised. It's not an issue you should 
> > be scared or defensive of discussing. It's not an attack on the art 
> > collective.
> > 
> > So I do resent your accusations that I am "throwing shit on Art05 
> > organizers and efforts." I am not. I'm sure it was a good event, 
> > and I have no interest in throwing shit on you. I'm sure you all 
> > put in a lot of work which you feel strongly about, just like ALL 
> > of us do with the various events we've all put on.
> > 
> > I also resent your snide and factually incorrect accusation that 
> > "Ironically, the person who is raising these ambiguous accusations 
> > has himself put himself into a lot of trouble concerning finances 
> > (not 40 miserable pounds my friend but much more...)"
> > 
> > I can only presume that refers to the rumours surrounding c90 
> > (again!). To clarify, there were no financial troubles with this 
> > event. If you really, really, want to discuss the details, you can 
> > talk to me face to face.
> > 
> > I've tried in my emails to be diplomatic and respectful in 
> > discussing issues which people have a lot personally invested in, 
> > and have avoided personally directed comments and invective. I am 
> > disappointed that you and Eric have not managed to maintain the 
> > same level of respect and maturity. Please stop it.
> > 
> > x
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Get your free encrypted email at http://www.cyber-rights.net
> > 
> > 
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