[matilda] FW: these are feelings, not an argument...

[Joe Morris]

In retrospect, sending the email to the list the way I did
was not the best thing to do but at the time it seemed
quite sensible. I assumed that it would be understood how
ridiculous and outragous it was, but obviously it was out of
context and that understandably confused people.

Sorry
Thanks for solidarity
Joe

----Original Message Follows----
From: <gavin at cyber-rights.net>
To: <writetodougald at gmail.com>, 
<matilda at lists.aktivix.org>,<malatesta_uk at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [matilda] FW: these are feelings, not an argument...
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:38:38 -0800

I support Chris' moderation. And normally I'd say it isn't
appropriate to send personal emails to this public list, or state
personal details etc. Because to do this would isolate people from
the group and distract from the kind of (non-personal) discussion
this list is for.

However, Eric's email attempted to subvert how things should work
here. It concerned a debate about how we do things at matilda, but
was sent off list to Joe, and was very nasty. The effect would have
been to isolate Joe (see how Eric attempts to stop him even
replying by saying that if Joe tried, Eric would arrange to have
his nasty email read out in front of everyone - to humiliate Joe,
presumably). This approach is taken rather than trying to argue
rationally with Joe's position in matilda's public forums (which
was NOT in fact only Joe's position, but the position taken by
several people at Matilda). The only thing Joe could do in those
circumstances, if he felt he couldn't just ignore the email (which,
I agree with Douglald, would have been the best thing all round),
would be to make the attack public himself.

So, I support Joe's decision to send that email to the list.

I don't want especially to add to the discussion, or be dragged
into it, so this is all I'm going to say. I'm only mailing because
I know it's not nice to be on the receiving end of nasty emails
without expressions of solidarity, and I think Joe has done, more
or less, the reasonable thing here.

- Gavin.




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