[matilda] Social centres, funding and the PGA Hallmarks

[dan at aktivix.org]

Ha ha.

You're joking of course. Ha ha.

Now, let me see - I don't seem to recall anyone saying that the PGA Hallmarks
were going to be 'ratified' at this meeting....?

In fact, the notes say:

"The PGA hallmarks were intended to be discussed after this point had been
reached but time ran out. It was agreed that they will be discussed at the next
meeting continuing this process. The PGA hallmarks have not been ruled out."

http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/21st_September_Matilda_meeting

Note: continuing the process....

So Cuthbert: please tell me you're winding me up. This is the kind of absolutely
exhausting game I played for yonks with the SWP, and I really cannot believe it
would happen in MATILDA. I mean - changing the name from collective to PGA!?
HAHAHAHA ha! Oh, that's funny! Er...

Nah - you must be joking. Surely no group of eight people would unanimously
decide to 'ratify' something, knowing how many other people who couldn't make
it don't agree? And knowing that it had been agreed that the process was
open-ended...?

If you're not joking, then it doesn't matter anyway: that a small group would be
capable of just pushing through their way against known opposition, merely by
caucusing, is SWP-type behaviour of the worst sort, and I'd want nothing to do
with such a group.

Autonomy and decentralisation? Hur hur...

So, anyway, maybe someone can tell me you're joking.... 

If not, it's been nice working with you, and I'll miss you, but I ain't working
with any group with such authoritarian tendencies...

Here's hoping I have to shamefully apologise for not knowing a joke when I see
one.

love

Dan
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Quoting cuthbert at riseup.net:

> At the matilda PGA meeting approximatly 8 people turned up and no-one
> strongly opposed the PGA halmarks so everyone present that was unsure was
> talked around into ratifying the PGA halmarks (including me!).  It was
> also agree that the name of the matilda collective would be changed from
> MATILDA to MATILDA PGA.  I hope nobody is unhappy with this as it was
> specificly agreed by _two_ large meetings that this would be the time to
> disscuss and/or ratify the PGA halmarks and because nobody from the
> wooly-liberal-pro-capitalist faction within the matilda collective showed
> up to block we had concensus on the issue, further if anyone wants to
> repeal the decision then they require a concensus decision (in which case
> each participant of the wednesday meeting has vowed to block).
> 
> PGA here we come.... see you at the barricades!
> 
> cuthbert
> 
> 
> >> The point I'm getting at with the two things above is what
> >> road do we want Matilda to go down in the medium term...?
> >>
> >> The road of grant applications or the road of
> >> resistance...?
> >
> > I recall that CIRCA got an Arts Council grant to resist the G8... so
> > things
> > aren't always as black and white. Blah. Blah. Blah.
> >
> > Fish. Armpit.  Badger.
> >
> > Er...
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