[matilda] CIQ Consultation
Simon Geller
simon.geller at blueyonder.co.uk
Wed Oct 19 14:58:20 BST 2005
Apologies if this has already been covered - I've been out of the loop for
a while.
There's a consultation going on at the Workstation on the
Sheaf Valley Framework Masterplan until Friday - covering the CIQ,
Southern Gateway, Sheaf Square & Park Hill & links to the City Centre.
This will definitely affect Matilda. It might be an idea to pop down, fill
in a leaflet and make your views known.
for more info see:-
http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-area/planning-and-city-development/whats-new/sheaf-valley-masterplan-consultation
(or http://tinyurl.com/dmxs2 )
Simon
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> 1. Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct, was: Re: [matilda]
> Notes from the meeting on 17th October 2005 (Joe Morris)
> 2. Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct, was: Re: [matilda]
> Notes from the meeting on 17th October 2005 (Chris)
> 3. Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct, was: Re: [matilda]
> Notes from the meeting on 17th October 2005 (dan at aktivix.org)
> 4. Flyer n events... (dan at aktivix.org)
> 5. Monday meeting (gavin at cyber-rights.net)
> 6. Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct (Becky)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:44:19 +0000
> From: "Joe Morris" <malatesta_uk at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct, was: Re: [matilda]
> Notes from the meeting on 17th October 2005
> To: gavin at cyber-rights.net, matilda at lists.aktivix.org,
> chris at aktivix.org
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> I agree with Gav, it all seems a bit pointless opening up the space to
> people who probably don't care anyway. I mean, what is the actual
> reasoning
> behind it?
>
> ==================="Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a
> lack of imagination"
> - Oscar Wilde
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: <gavin at cyber-rights.net>
> To: <matilda at lists.aktivix.org>, <chris at aktivix.org>
> Subject: Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct,was: Re: [matilda] Notes
> from the meeting on 17th October 2005
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:18:30 -0700
>
> It needs to be carefully run...it'll require LOTS of us to be there
> to have the hwole building open.
>
> Also, I'm not sure why a) we need a 'grand opening' - we're already
> open!! b) we would want to invite the 'suits' and so on in to the
> rest of the building, who are basically the audience I've seen so
> far for all these kind of art events in the CIQ.
>
> My main issue is a purely practical one - I don't have any issue
> with the art event itself, but I'm sceptical about having the rest
> of the building open. If people are willing to be there to 'staff'
> it, then okay. But we'd need to work out how many people we needed,
> and get a sign up for that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:47:47 -0700 Chris <chris at aktivix.org> wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >I was kind of expecting *some* response to this...! :-)
> >
> >On Tue 18-Oct-2005 at 09:31:36AM +0100, Chris wrote:
> >>
> >> ...it became apparent that the opening night of Art 05 on
> >> 27th October is actually going to be *the* Matilda opening
> >> night...!
> >>
> >> I think that this means that we no longer need to hold
> >> back with publicising the place, we should do Matilda
> >> flyers, and some outreach to let people know the place is
> >> open and what is happening.
> >
> >We have had a few flyers designed already...
> >
> > https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/Matildalogos
> >
> >Should we get some printed... (with a web address on
> >them)?
> >
> >> Perhaps we should also try to get a Matilda web site
> >> together -- we could simply have a static page or two with
> >> information that doesn't need updating and some nice
> >> graphics and then point to the wiki for the latest info...
> >
> >I have done a draft a splash page here:
> >
> > http://matilda.blackfish.org.uk/
> >
> >It needs some more text on it...
> >
> >We could get www.matilda.aktivix.org as a more permanent
> >domain name... it wouldn't cost anything and is
> >more ecological than buying a new one... see:
> >
> > http://help.riseup.net/hosting/dns/#domain_ecology
> >
> >What do people think (I realise that this stuff really
> >needs to be discussed at the next meeting also... it's on
> >the agenda already...)?
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >PS I cleaned up the wiki font page a bit:
> >
> > https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/MATILDA
> >
> >PPS Not all events are getting listed in the events
> > section on the wiki... like should the hunt sab
> > benefit and Thursday socials and things be listed
> > there...?
> >
> >
> >https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/MATILDA#Upcoming_events
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:49:31 +0100
> From: Chris <chris at aktivix.org>
> Subject: Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct, was: Re: [matilda]
> Notes from the meeting on 17th October 2005
> To: matilda at lists.aktivix.org
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> Hi
>
> On Wed 19-Oct-2005 at 02:40:21AM +0100, Steve Against the War wrote:
>>
>> >> ...it became apparent that the opening night of Art 05 on
>> >> 27th October is actually going to be *the* Matilda opening
>> >> night...!
>>
>> Hmmm, I'm not sure everyone agreed to this idea.
>
> Sure... there were only half a dozen people left at this
> point...
>
>> Chris> We could get www.matilda.aktivix.org as a more permanent domain
>> Chris> name...
>>
>> Yeah, though the easier to remember the better. Having said the only
>> www.matilda domains that are left are plc.uk and ltd.uk...
>>
>> www.matilda.ltd.uk ?? Well I guess we're limited in a certain way.
>
> But we would have to be a Limited company called Matilda
> to apply for this domain name, same for the PLC...
>
> Chris
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:15:48 +0100
> From: dan at aktivix.org
> Subject: Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct, was: Re: [matilda]
> Notes from the meeting on 17th October 2005
> To: Joe Morris <malatesta_uk at hotmail.com>
> Cc: matilda at lists.aktivix.org
> Message-ID: <1129713348.43560ec481bf0 at www.aktivix.org>
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> Allo,
>
> Joe's got a point. We're unlikely to win over suits to MATILDA's cause -
> but
> then, the CIQ ain't just suits. It's also a lot of people who have
> sympathy
> with what we're doing.
>
> MATILDA is growing by word of mouth. What we could do is have flyers, but
> only
> give them out to people we're talking to, so they have something on their
> bedroom floor to remember MATILDA by. (Or find out where they live, poo
> on
> their bedroom floor and stick a little MATILDA flag in the top - that
> would get
> them to remember too... mm, maybe stick to flyers.)
>
> The flyers should mention about Thursday's social and Monday's meeting
> amongst
> other things. (Did someone else say that? Can't be bothered to go back and
> read!)
>
> p.s. A few meetings ago... oh, another e-mail needed coz no-one ever reads
> points needing response unless they're first thing in a mail...
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Quoting Joe Morris <malatesta_uk at hotmail.com>:
>
>> I agree with Gav, it all seems a bit pointless opening up the space to
>> people who probably don't care anyway. I mean, what is the actual
>> reasoning
>> behind it?
>>
>> ====================>
>> "Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination"
>> - Oscar Wilde
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> From: <gavin at cyber-rights.net>
>> To: <matilda at lists.aktivix.org>, <chris at aktivix.org>
>> Subject: Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct,was: Re: [matilda]
>> Notes
>> from the meeting on 17th October 2005
>> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:18:30 -0700
>>
>> It needs to be carefully run...it'll require LOTS of us to be there
>> to have the hwole building open.
>>
>> Also, I'm not sure why a) we need a 'grand opening' - we're already
>> open!! b) we would want to invite the 'suits' and so on in to the
>> rest of the building, who are basically the audience I've seen so
>> far for all these kind of art events in the CIQ.
>>
>> My main issue is a purely practical one - I don't have any issue
>> with the art event itself, but I'm sceptical about having the rest
>> of the building open. If people are willing to be there to 'staff'
>> it, then okay. But we'd need to work out how many people we needed,
>> and get a sign up for that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:47:47 -0700 Chris <chris at aktivix.org> wrote:
>> >Hi
>> >
>> >I was kind of expecting *some* response to this...! :-)
>> >
>> >On Tue 18-Oct-2005 at 09:31:36AM +0100, Chris wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ...it became apparent that the opening night of Art 05 on
>> >> 27th October is actually going to be *the* Matilda opening
>> >> night...!
>> >>
>> >> I think that this means that we no longer need to hold
>> >> back with publicising the place, we should do Matilda
>> >> flyers, and some outreach to let people know the place is
>> >> open and what is happening.
>> >
>> >We have had a few flyers designed already...
>> >
>> > https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/Matildalogos
>> >
>> >Should we get some printed... (with a web address on
>> >them)?
>> >
>> >> Perhaps we should also try to get a Matilda web site
>> >> together -- we could simply have a static page or two with
>> >> information that doesn't need updating and some nice
>> >> graphics and then point to the wiki for the latest info...
>> >
>> >I have done a draft a splash page here:
>> >
>> > http://matilda.blackfish.org.uk/
>> >
>> >It needs some more text on it...
>> >
>> >We could get www.matilda.aktivix.org as a more permanent
>> >domain name... it wouldn't cost anything and is
>> >more ecological than buying a new one... see:
>> >
>> > http://help.riseup.net/hosting/dns/#domain_ecology
>> >
>> >What do people think (I realise that this stuff really
>> >needs to be discussed at the next meeting also... it's on
>> >the agenda already...)?
>> >
>> >Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >PS I cleaned up the wiki font page a bit:
>> >
>> > https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/MATILDA
>> >
>> >PPS Not all events are getting listed in the events
>> > section on the wiki... like should the hunt sab
>> > benefit and Thursday socials and things be listed
>> > there...?
>> >
>> >
>> >https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/MATILDA#Upcoming_events
>> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:29:05 +0100
> From: dan at aktivix.org
> Subject: [matilda] Flyer n events...
> To: matilda at lists.aktivix.org
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> Allo again
>
> .. A few meetings back we mentioned getting all upcoming events and
> workshops
> down, so's we could make a programme-type flyer.
>
> Does anyone fancy helping me do that some time this / next week, so
> they're
> available for the 27th? Say, brainstorming all events / workshops on
> Monday,
> then making it...?
>
> Being rather lazy, I wouldn't mind re-using an old SSF flyer wot I did in
> Feb -
>
>
> https://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/Resource-WhyDontYou
>
> - which fits nicely with getting people to do stuff, and has pictures of
> people
> breaking TVs, which makes me happy. (Obviously changing all text and
> branding
> to MATILDA...)
>
> Events could go on back...
>
> Er - my two offerings are going to be:
>
> 1. Voice workshop.
> http://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/matilda/2005-September/000479.html
>
> 2. Firestaff fun! We'll get a big pile of dowling, some newspaper and
> tape, and
> we'll make practice sticks suited to the kind of weight that's good for
> you,
> and start spinning a stick round our heads and throwing it about. Once
> some
> time has passed, you'll have saved your pennies, and be ready to play with
> fire! Ha ha! Although not in the basement...
>
> Proper firesticks cost about £40 up, so having a practice one is good so
> you
> don't damage the wicks and aren't worried about breakage. (The remnants of
> my
> last practice stick still reside in the basement...)
>
> Firestaff is also very, very good movement meditation, and great for
> sorting
> your head out.
>
> This could expand into general swizzling, including poi, if anyone else
> wants to
> do that...?
>
> Oh! p.s. saw the new kitchen on Monday. I almost wept with the beauty of
> it.
> What a f**king fantastic space! WOW!
>
> love
>
> Dan
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:10:30 -0700
> From: <gavin at cyber-rights.net>
> Subject: [matilda] Monday meeting
> To: <matilda at lists.aktivix.org>
> Message-ID: <200510191010.j9JAAXQF046084 at mailserver1.hushmail.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> So, seeing as things are sometimes a little tense in meetings and
> so on recently, I'd like to propose that from 7.45 next Monday, we
> spend 20 minutes playing some really silly games that a clown
> taught me, so we can all make friends again.
>
> x
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:23:48 +0100
> From: "Becky" <noborders123 at onetel.com>
> Subject: [matilda] Re: Grand Matilda opening night 27th Oct
> To: <matilda at lists.aktivix.org>
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>
> I share the caution being expressed on this list re having a 'grand
> opening'
> and it seems it wasn't even agreed by the small number of people with the
> stamina to still be in the meeting.
> It should definitely be discussed on mondays meeting (which then doesn't
> leave much time) as there's a lack of clarity of what we're talking about
> -
> as Gav said we are open already
> so then it seems people are talking about inviting in certain people - but
> I'm unclear who.
> Who are 'suits'? Are they the city planners, the councillors, the property
> owners/developers/speculators in the area (including the owners of the
> building)?
> as Joe asked what is the actual reasoning behind inviting them?
> There seems to be a general view that we don't discuss certain stuff on
> this
> public list - like our status in the building - but we need to remember
> what
> their interests are.
> And who are 'the other CIQ people who have sympathy'. It seems to me they
> will probably come to an art opening night anyway.
> Becky
>
>
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