[matilda] Literary workstation

[R&A]

I do apologize for being too spiky, we are all learning by this shared 
experience something more about the open source spirit, but, 
nevertheless, each has their own ways, including ways of learning, 
making mistakes, going ahead..  but... sometimes you have also sounded 
very snappy, even arrogant, like "hey dan, look at this idea-proposal, 
etc." but then everything seems to have already been planned imagined or 
performed by Dan, and of course better, and other details, which tend to 
make communication uncomfortable so perhaps you also have to learn the 
open source spirit of cooperation and not so much stamping on other 
persons': some may need to feel accepted and welcome, not only 
tolerated...anyway, without self criticism there is little advancement. 
If the other person has to say "sorry" everytime because you may feel 
offended (!), then that's no way to learn;)

But definitely, with so much space available, projects at least need not 
interfere.


dan at aktivix.org wrote:
> Hi amp n others
> 
> Amp - you say:
> 
> "I can see that you stick to your old ideas.
> 
> "Don't ignore the Literary Workstation, unless you are doing it 
> deliberately? Ignoring what we're trying to do in the same building?
> 
> "interesting...
> ---
> 
> Do you really and truly think that anyone would actually deliberately ignore you
> or your ideas??? Aw, come on! And you can be very spiky, can't you? "I can see
> that you stick to your old ideas...?" Hah! Yes, very set in my ways.
> 
> As with Gavin's seminars, there's a whole load of overlap with different stuff
> in the building - the idea's been floating about of creating a little leaflet
> or programme for the coming months, to get others in... that's *definitely* a
> joint project.
> 
> One thing we didn't get into the list of MATILDA elements that I'd really love
> to see there is *open source*.  This means no ownership, open collaboration -
> but always recognition and acknowledgement of others' work.
> 
> Most importantly, it means than an environment is created where ideas can evolve
> openly.
> 
> Good reading on the subject by someone on another list not far from here - 
> 
> http://charlieharvey.org.uk/cgi-bin/writings.pl?seen=1&uid=23
> 
> I'm particularly fond of the aim of original GNU project - 
> 
> To build "a completely free operating system, or to die trying."
> 
> That's the spirit!
> 
> So no Amp - I'm not deliberately ignoring you.  I'm being my usual "I'm going to
> write a gzillion e-mails about ideas I've got, of which maybe one half of one
> might ever happen" in the hope that anyone else doing anything else who's
> interested will come bounding along going "AAAugh! I'm doing this thing! Your
> thing's a bit similar! We could do this-or-this!  Yak! How exciting!
> AAAAUGHhh*Bleeuuurgh!* Sorry, I've just been sick on your shoes!"
> 
> Equally, I could say, 'well, I've discovered my thing's so similar that I should
> just help to support yours.'  But we don't know that yet, coz we haven't
> talked.
> 
> Presume the best in people, I'd say - at least people at MATILDA.  It makes life
> nicer.
> 
> love
> 
> Dan
> 
> p.s. Just discovered Wanda the Fish on Ubuntu.  Cooool! Latest pieces of
> wisdom:
> 
> "Save energy: be apathetic."
> "Your object is to save the world, while still leading a pleasant life."
> "Never be led astray onto the path of virtue."
> "You are fighting for survival in your own sweet and gentle way."
> "Your boyfriend takes chocolate from strangers."
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