[matilda] Re: [ssf] Re: SWAN posters

[Dave Havard]

Can I ask that everyone refrain from inflammatory remarks.  We need to
pull together not split into factions.  Telling other people to f*** of
is out of order on this list.

In solidarity,
Dave


Mr Jase Malgod wrote:
> The level of fraud on IB (i.e. the 'working class' going onto IB cos
> of poverty) is 0.5% according to the DWP up to 10% according to the
> BMA. The needs of all people on IB are profound and the issue affects
> those from all backgrounds. IB is not a soft option, it is a support
> for those who are at the margins of society and at the edge of
> existence. It is a vital support for those who are too ill to cope.
> Yes people take advantage of it because they are in poverty, but to
> change that requires a wholesale change in society, indeed many of
> those on IB are made ill because of the society we live in, ill health
> from over work, fed crap by companies obsessed with greed, living
> without community or support. But changing the world is a little
> beyond us at the mo', so if it's ok with you we'll just try and get
> some argument going against the green paper and try and stop things
> getting really rubbish.
> Most rely on IB because they have no other option, because they are
> ill or because they are literally dying, and if that seems too 'middle
> class' an issue, if it seems too bourgoisis to care about those who
> are in desparation with life turning into a succession of illness or
> prejudice then you can f*** off.
> Jason
>
> worldwarfree at riseup.net writes:
>>  
>>
>> Where is the issue.. Income support has not increased for over 10 years
>> this leaveing people haveing to get Incapacity Benafits perhaps we
>> need to
>> focuss on the fact that Income support has not increased for over 10
>> years
>> an avarage of 32 pounds a weeks for a single person brake this down 10
>> pounds a week bills 10 pounds a weeks bus fairs (if luckey) 12 pounds a
>> week food there is little woneder there are people going for Incapacity
>> Benafits all to often being refused the real issue must then be the very
>> real non increase in Income support and the widder poverty not in cash
>> terms but in meny other terms.
>> I know of meny who simply go hungry have to fiddle walk for miles to
>> claim
>> the  32 pounds a weeks where Day time TV is there only real friend
>> and so
>> fourth this is not only an issue of poverty but one of class and to
>> often
>> it is the Middle class who bleat about the loss of Incapacity Benafits
>> perhaps SWAN need to re think a little because i know there is an issue
>> regards Incapacity Benafits however the real issue ( in all my
>> decacadance
>> agreed) is the very real poverty of the working class and why there
>> forced
>> onto Incapacity Benafits not because there ill but due poverty this
>> leaveing those in real need of Incapacity Benafits without becuase the
>> goverment not only this one has failed to increase Income support
>> over the
>> years:
>> http://www.iwca.info/news.htm
>> 0742
>> ps i have chosen not to work since i was 16 and been claimeing for
>> over 20
>> years and have a grate pride in doing so:
>>
>
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