[pagan-magik] Initiatives required

Sun Jan 2 11:58:15 GMT 2005

I too have noticed that there are fewer and fewer
postings from people other than Steve and David and
recently Raga(thanks for the info.) Sad that all the
positive energy at the ESF and even later at the Book
fair seems to have dissipated. Perhaps all the petty
power games over the name and the moderater etc.put
some off. And it doesn't help when Steve, you come up
with comments like 'but at least, all those
millionaires on the Maldives died in the Tsunami too,
which can't be bad'. Duh!!Where ARE you coming from???

I really liked your posting David about Gaia
responding as a spiritual being to all the attacks on
her.... And the intention behind your work on Christ
and the Goddess. But my sense is that we need to
dissolve ALL patriarchal and hierarchical thinking
rather than marry them to the goddess. The deep
masculine is not patriarchal and does not need to
dominate or win. Even having a list where people are
excluded because noone knows them is still in the old
hierarchical mode.....unless of course it is
practically commonsensical...as when activist plans
need to be kept secret. 

I believe that thought can create energy. And I feel
that if we are going to do any more magickal activist
work together we need to have some more intelligent
conversations about intentions etc.preferably face to
face.

Love and power,
Jocelyn.

--- steve ash <steveash_2001 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> In the absence of any other initiatives on this list
> re the Tsunamis all I can think of is the
> visualisation of Neptune's trident withdrawing into
> the ocean (intent - to prevent larger aftershocks
> than
> the kind that happened in Sumatra this afternoon)
> not
> sure of an image to prevent disease (Chlorea has
> already broken out in some areas).
> Maybe we should just do our own visualisations over
> the weekend. 
> 
> The lack of initiatives on this list/network is
> forcing me to consider it a failure alas. Hopefully
> things will change in the New year, but as I replan
> my
> own agendas for the New Year I'm beginning to think
> that this 'network' isn't worth the energy.
> 
> Steve  
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> > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:27:58 +0000 (GMT)
> > From: steve ash <steveash_2001 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > Subject: [pagan-magik] Tsunami
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> > I'm still not sure what to make of the Tsunami, or
> > what any intention should be. Lots of governments
> > competing to justify themselves and throwing money
> > at
> > it now its too late, and TV News companies making
> a
> > spectacle of it to sell advertising space. Seems
> its
> > a
> > matter of the local people getting back on their
> > feet
> > again by their own efforts, with their own
> resorces
> > when the aid gets them off the floor, not sure
> what
> > we
> > can do to help that. Perhaps a protection from
> > aftershocks and 2nd tsunamis or disease? If anyone
> > wants to sugggest a specific action and intention
> > I'll
> > join in later on Friday afternoon.
> > 
> > At least lots of millionaires drowned in the
> > Maldives
> > which can't be bad :/
> > 
> > Steve  
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