[pagan-magik] subscription

nina nina at aktivix.org
Fri Jan 14 23:33:02 GMT 2005 

There is also a second
> person awaiting subscription who I suggest this would
> apply to also. 

arthur has not send any replies though to two little 'questionnaires' 
that have been send out to him...?

shouldn't we try to stick to this procedure at least for a little while?

> 
> Also do we want our archives to be open to all non
> members, because if we do this process of subscription
> seems a waste of effort? :)

i see not much point in closed archives, since one should never post 
sensitive information on lists anyway, probably not send digitally at 
all.. but i won't object to it if others feel it's more sensible..

xx nina







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>>   1. open list (steve ash)
>>   2. reply to "accusations" (evol at c6.org)
>>   3. evol's comment (nina)
>>   4. Re: evol's comment (Sean)
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:22:14 +0000 (GMT)
>>From: steve ash <steveash_2001 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>Subject: [pagan-magik] open list
>>To: pagan-magik at lists.aktivix.org
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>>It seems our list security debate is somewhat
>>redundant at the moment as Asim informs me he can
>>read
>>the archives quite readily :) So no need to CC
>>him...
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>>Steve
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:53:17 -0000 (GMT)
>>From: evol at c6.org
>>Subject: [pagan-magik] reply to "accusations"
>>To: pagan-magik at lists.aktivix.org
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>>hi PMA, this is asim,
>>
>>i started off my answers to your questions with the
>>LARC ejaculation
>>because i want to get this out of the way first off.
>>
>>i have already stated that the LARC leadership has
>>ejaculated me and
>>fabian in a "witch trial" held at their AGM.
>>
>>The accusations are ridiculous , false and no
>>"serious" allegations have
>>been made to our faces, only rumours and slurs : and
>>i willnot bother to
>>go into them fully, as they are of the standard of
>>the salem witch trials
>>where fantastic and paranoid claims were made, all
>>of which were refuted
>>and yet we were expelled anyway: my majority vote,
>>(in a place that claims
>>to operate by consensus)
>>
>>but i will outline a few things i feel are relevant
>>to this list.
>>
>>One of the problems LARC had with us was when we
>>invoked the Yuruban God
>>OSHUN at the PGA Belgrade conference. see
>>
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> http://lists.movingpages.org/marchives/breakingthesilence/2004-October/thread.html
> 
>>The PGA banned our invocation from a joint document
>>without explanation.
>>(this is wot made an enemy of qweeruption and
>>rhythms of resistence as
>>well as pga)  Fabian has stated on record that this
>>was a rascist decision
>>by the PGA. I will add here that this decision was
>>also due to the PGA and
>>LARC's fundamental cliquey Christian politics (
>>exemplified in such LARC
>>usergroups CAAT and ARROW ) Not that i have any
>>great problem or
>>opposition to these groups, but i would expect any
>>pagan/majikal outlook
>>or position to be at least critical of any kind of
>>organised christianity
>>or monotheistix.
>>
>>As for my contributions to the OurMayday site, i
>>will very readily declare
>>that i wrote an openly challenging text
>>contradicting the Womble's
>>ourmayday.org.uk site when the Wombles and London
>>Mayday collective had
>>the nerve to cancel the Mayday/ Beltane festival in
>>London last year. see
>>http://ourmayday.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Mayday
>>and compare it to http://ourmayday.org.uk
>>
>>and if the wombles want to side with Red Ken's
>>cronies and the trade
>>unions against me when i assisted in casting a
>>banishing spell that in
>>fact helped the wombles anti-esf action then that
>>just goes to show their
>>true colours.
>>
>>they certainly had no problems using my maps for
>>their mayday promotions
>>back in 2003:
>>
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> http://chinabone.lth.bclub.org.uk/gallery/hall_of_maps/DSCN3074
> 
>>and if i'm a parasite, then this lot are vampires!
>>
>>anyway, I do not believe PMA would take side of
>>Christians against
>>pantheists on such trumped up charges.
>>
>>Space Bunny persuaded me that we should make sure
>>the whole LARC episode
>>does not derail us from preparing our response to
>>the G8, and to network
>>with you was a very constructive thing to do. Please
>>do not let what
>>LARC did to me, derail co-operating in our practice.
>>I hope you can put
>>yourself in my position of being removed from LARC
>>in such a way, and
>>why I brought it up, in response to your initiation
>>questionaire. I
>>thought it was best to bring it up first and *get
>>out of way* so I did
>>not get any similar related shocks here.
>>
>>yours in struggle,
>>xasim
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:58:29 +0000
>>From: nina <nina at aktivix.org>
>>Subject: [pagan-magik] evol's comment
>>To: pagan-magik at lists.aktivix.org
>>Message-ID: <41E70B25.1030504 at aktivix.org>
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>>hey all,
>>
>>asim is not subscribed yet but i have approved the
>>previous posting of 
>>his, coz it's obviously relevant!
>>
>>can we come to a decision on his subscription
>>request? i'm all for it, 
>>now that the various points of view have been raised
>>- and anyway, 
>>anyone can be unsubscribed and banned from the list
>>should such drastic 
>>a measure be ever called for..
>>
>>cheers
>>nina
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>>Message: 4
>>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:58:06 +0000 (GMT)
>>From: Sean <sean at hairyjedi.net>
>>Subject: Re: [pagan-magik] evol's comment
>>To: nina <nina at aktivix.org>
>>Cc: pagan-magik at lists.aktivix.org
>>Message-ID:
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>>Can we all please assume that silence implies
>>consent on list-management 
>>issues... If folk don't speak up to block someone's
>>admission, we will 
>>assume they feel the new member is to be welcomed
>>in... it will be so much 
>>easier this way than to wait for dozens of folk to
>>say "i agree" or 
>>similar...
>>
>>love and chaos
>>
>>sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>asim is not subscribed yet but i have approved the
>>
>>previous posting of 
>>
>>>his, coz it's obviously relevant!
>>>
>>>can we come to a decision on his subscription
>>
>>request? i'm all for it, 
>>
>>>now that the various points of view have been
>>
>>raised - and anyway, 
>>
>>>anyone can be unsubscribed and banned from the
>>
>>list should such drastic 
>>
>>>a measure be ever called for..
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>nina
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