[pagan-magik] Subscription

Sat Jan 15 02:20:33 GMT 2005

I have no objection to the archive being open, but
in that case it makes little difference to me who can
post and who can't, ie whose subscribed, as they can
email and have it forwarded on anyway, so won't be
motivated into putting much effort into being a
moderator in the subscription process (don't see the
point) as I'm very busy with other projects. 

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>    1. Re: reply to "accusations" (Ian Gregory)
>    2. Re: open list (Ian Gregory)
>    3. Re: evol's comment (Ian Gregory)
>    4. subscription (Steve (Dionysian Underground))
>    5. Re: subscription (Ian Gregory)
>    6. Re: subscription (nina)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:34:56 +0000
> From: Ian Gregory <ianji at zenatode.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [pagan-magik] reply to "accusations"
> To: pagan-magik at lists.aktivix.org
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> On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:53:17PM -0000,
> evol at c6.org wrote:
> 
> > hi PMA, this is asim,
> 
> Hello Asim,
> 
> I know that you are reading the archive of this
> group so even
> if you have not yet been subscribed I expect you to
> see this.
>  
> > i have already stated that the LARC leadership has
> ejaculated me and
> > fabian in a "witch trial" held at their AGM.
> 
> I was trying to keep an open mind and had no
> intention of
> objecting to your subscription request being
> approved but
> this sort of comment does not bode well. I work with
> people
> who have a good working relationship with LARC and
> your
> repeated decription of their AGM as a "witch trial"
> taken
> together with the ill-considered use of the word
> "ejaculated"
> is worrying.
> 
> The only other thing I would like to comment on is
> this:
>  
> > As for my contributions to the OurMayday site, i
> will very readily declare
> > that i wrote an openly challenging text
> contradicting the Womble's
> > ourmayday.org.uk site when the Wombles and London
> Mayday collective had
> > the nerve to cancel the Mayday/ Beltane festival
> in London last year.
> 
> Nobody has the power to cancel Mayday/Beltane
> anywhere -
> I celebrated it in London as usual in 2004. Of
> course I
> know that ourmayday.org.uk had (and still has) a
> headline
> "Mayday Cancelled!" but it is sub-titled "Comments
> From
> Some Members of the London Mayday Collective" and
> the
> tongue-in-cheek headline is immediately clarified by
> the first line of the statement:
> 
> omd> Following a meeting held in mid-January the
> London
> omd> Mayday Collective decided not to proceed with
> plans
> omd> for an anti-capitalist event this year.
> 
> The statement goes on to explain why, and of course
> they
> had every right to make such a decision. They were
> not
> obligated to organise such an event and they made no
> attempt to prevent anyone else from doing so. Lots
> of
> people whinged and moaned about it because they
> couldn't
> be bothered to do anything themselves and wanted
> someone
> else to do the work, but others just got on and did
> stuff
> anyway (I had an excellent day with the Space
> Hijackers).
> 
> I guess what concerns me is your apparent readiness
> to
> blame others whilst presenting an over-simplified
> version
> of what you see as "the facts", twisted to support
> your
> own position. However, since I have never (as far as
> I
> know) met you in person I am still loath to raise
> any
> formal objection to your subscription request.
> 
> > Space Bunny persuaded me that we should make sure
> the whole LARC episode
> > does not derail us from preparing our response to
> the G8, and to network
> > with you was a very constructive thing to do.
> 
> As long as you realise that in networking with "us"
> you
> will indirectly networking with groups that are
> connected
> with LARC, and are able to control your hostility
> better than
> you have so far demonstrated, then Space Bunny may
> be proved
> correct - I certainly hope so.
> 
> -- 
> Ian Gregory
> http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:05:08 +0000
> From: Ian Gregory <ianji at zenatode.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [pagan-magik] open list
> To: pagan-magik at lists.aktivix.org
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> 
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 06:22:14PM +0000, steve ash
> wrote:
> 
> > It seems our list security debate is somewhat
> > redundant at the moment as Asim informs me he can
> read
> > the archives quite readily :) So no need to CC
> him...
> 
> Yes, I assumed people knew that the archive has
> always been
> accessible to the public. The list is currently
> closed in that
> only subscribers can post without moderation and
> that all new
> subscriptions require approval. As far as I am
> concerned our
> "debate" has been about whether this should be
> relaxed to
> automatically allow new subscriptions.
> 
> If people are concerned about the "security"
> implications of
> having a public archive then we will have to talk
> about that
> too. I assume that *all* unencrypted information
> that I send
> out over the Internet is potentially available to
> certain
> organisations so it does not make a great deal of
> difference
> to me one way or the other, but personally I would
> prefer the
> archive to remain public (any "secret" stuff should
> not be
> discussed on the list).
> 
> -- 
> 
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