[Ssf] welfare meeting/uni sf, some thoughts

[noone noone]

The more i think about it the weirder the idea of a students only social 
forum gets...

There are many issues which affect students like housing etc... but if there 
isnt any input by non-students then it ends up with a fiasco where student 
flats go up in broomhill and cause trafic nightmares for primary school 
students to get to their place of education.

I am not sure if it is in the ethos of a social forum to say "no NUS card no 
participation..."

What happens when a student wants to bring up a non-university issue will 
they be told "sorry, i think you are looking for the sheffield social forum 
- this is the sheffield uni social forum".  Either the remit is so tiny that 
the NUS may as well take over or it is so broad that it is useless unless 
non-students take part at which point it no longer becomes a student only 
social forum.

By creating a students only social forum i feel that they are gettoising 
themselves and segregating themselves from the wider public in sheffield and 
after the anti-student hostility seen recently near hunters bar this, for 
me, is a step in the wrong direction.

I also feel that there are many other groups in the city that could do with 
special treatment e.g. elderly, council tenants, shop assistants etc...

There is also a student union, surely if they want an open space to talk 
about specificly student stuff then that is the place

from
cuthbert (student)

P.S. apologise in advance for spelling mistakes



>From: spodulike at freeuk.com
>Reply-To: spodulike at freeuk.com
>To: Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
>Subject: Re: [Ssf] welfare meeting/uni sf, some thoughts
>Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:26:41 +0000
>
>Presume the one set up in Shef Uni is just for students from the
>university. I think it's a good idea to have an open space there for
>discussions on topics which are about the Univeristy.
>
>If the topics are on student life in general then having involvement
>from Sheffield Hallam, and the College, and Schools would be preferable.
>
>
>That said some concerns (e.g. housing) are wider than the student
>population, and a forum focused on students would miss the point of
>resolving conflict through discussion.
>
>So the University social forum is a fine idea, but it's issues would be
>limited to those arising from the University, otherwise it loses the
>point of being an open space for discussion where anyone involved in
>the issue can contribute. In reality I imagine it will become more like
>a campaign group, albeit controlled from the ground up.
>
>That said we haven't decided along which path Sheffield SF will travel
>yet, so it could be that we follow that model:) Agreed it would be good
>to have contributions from those involved but sure we can have a chat
>on Sat.
>
>And have updated the wefare meeting stuff, not much detail there tho'.
>
>Jason
>
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > It the plan to have a Sheffield University Social Forum or
> > a Sheffield Hallam University Social Forum or will it be a
> > joint one for students from both Universities?
> >
> > I must admit I don't understand why the students can't
> > work with the non-students... but perhaps I'm missing
> > something...?
> >
> > Chris
> >
>
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