[Ssf] that nazi..

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dan
Can I just make a plea - Mozaz. this is directed at you particularly,
but it's a serious plea to others.

There are racists who want a fight.  There are lefties who want a
fight.  It's been going on for over a century now, this particular
fascist-socialist fight - could we *please* not have another historical
re-enactment in Sheffield?

reply from mozaz
yes we need to move foroword understand why those have had not love use hate
thats both sides on this..

dan
The old 'anti-Nazi' tactics are of no use - fuel on the fire, in fact.
It's exactly what the racists want.  Whilst the fight may make both
sides feel self-important, if racism and the BNP are to be challenged,
we have to stop playing this daft historical game.

mozaz
could not agree more lets look towords beter ways of exposeing these people and
noy play into the game far more of a challange to walk away than towords..

dan
God knows, I'm probably p**sing in the wind here: precisely those people
who enjoy their historical re-enactments are also the ones who can't see
how damaging it is, and are unwilling ever to change.

mozaz
god knows i fucking to do my own cost and did i not realise where all this shit
leads when at an afa gig and appears a man with ice pick.. nuff said?

dan
And can we please recall that SSF *never* recovered after one silly
little leftie-baiting e-mail got blown out of all proportion - paranoia
and leftie calls of 'get the baseball bats out!' quickly left the SSF
going from an average of 30 at meetings to an average of 5.

mozaz
basball bat when on the bofire ie novemeber 5th..

dan
Note that my details have since been on Redwatch - and, funnily enough,
nothing has happened.  That's because these people are playing the same
self-important game as those on the left who oblige them.  Everyone runs
around like headless chickens squaking a lot, and nothing actually happens.

Which is not to say that there aren't nasty, violent people out there -
plenty of 'em!  But I promise, you're more likely to get lamped by a
pi**ed up person somewhere in town, or more likely in fact to get run
over whilst crossing the road, because you were distracted by looking
for Nazis.

mozaz
we need to confront the resons for violace with love understanding.. far more
easy to be agressive use your fist as you do not have to think.. beleve me i
have been there.. non violance means you have to think agreed a challage far
better than kicking shit out of each other though..

dan
If you want to go and fight the good fight, go and do it somewhere at a
safe distance from the Sheffield Social Forum.

As I say, this does NOT mean that nothing is done:  but it means that we
do things that are actually effective, don't damage all concerned, and
don't lead to King Paranoia ruling the roost again.

mozaz all my parnoia is here http://urbanparanoia.co.uk

dan
Just some thoughts,
amd some more
mozaz