[Fwd: Re: [Ssf] Lat night's meeting]

[Kevin Gillan]

Chris Malins wrote:

> going to be meetings, there needs to be a commitment of someone at least
> to definitely be there, or else we'll just put people off (cf. why its
> so hard to get students involved).

Yep, would suggest we set up a rota of facillitators, changing each 
week, looking ahead a couple of months at a time. If it turns out you 
can't make your alloted time, fair enough, but find someone else to do it.

> 
> My shoes are still damp.

:(

>> always have to ask them to open it for us, because Sharrow Community 
>> Forum never tell the security folk that we've booked it.
And that's just they way they work, they won't unlock it till someone 
turns up for obvious security reasons. For future reference, whoever 
gets there first should wander down to the executive suite and tell the 
security chap that you're from the SSF and he'll let you in.


>> I know this might be a bit tricky, coz Kev's just got a squillion 
>> business cards done with the times of the meetings on - but what does 
>> anyone else think about the usefulness of these meetings?  If they're 
>> attended at all, it's by the usual suspects / the 'core working 
>> group', but we don't actually use the space effectively to organise, 
>> or to put on anything useful to anyone else.

Except for the launch event, the brighthouse protest, the disability 
meetings and the uk local social forum gathering, plus some informal 
information stuff that was good. Plus its a good reason for like minded 
folk to get together. Plus its a garunteed (or should be) place for 
people interested in SSF to come along (like having an office with very 
short opening hours).

You are right, we're not using that space effectively at the moment, but 
if we are to organise any of the events you suggest for 2005 then we're 
gonna find it very useful, if we don't tie ourselves to regular meetings 
then I don't see anything getting organised at all, except by very 
committed individuals, but even then they don't get the benifit of 
chewing over ideas with others, coralling them into helping etc. If 
you're at all into inclusiveness or democracy then you probably buy the 
idea that no one person has all the right answers. While there are 
particularly talented individuals out there, even if they can pull off 
the organisational stuff behind a big event, you only get what they want 
to see.

(And there's the business cards :) Which have just arrived by the way.)


>> How about we stop having regular meetings?  We could have a go at the 
>> Leicester Social Forum model - no regular meetings, just events and 
>> meetings as and when, and of various sorts - social events, talks with 
>> speakers, working group meetings, etc.

We could tie the facillitation rota into a chance for people with 
particular issues they want to discuss to invite particular people to 
come along to inform us, with plenty of advanced notice and no 
particular demand that it must suddenly become a campaigning issue of 
course.

>>
>> We then just continue to use this list to discuss stuff, and maybe 
>> once every two months have some kind of convening meeting - becoming a 
>> much looser network, in effect, because people would just organise 
>> various activities, and try to get others involved!

I think this would probably go the way of the sheffield mayday list, 
very useful for a while, then a big bucket of spam, and now very very quiet.

Just my thoughts, can't claim to see the future.

Kev

>>
>> The risk here is that, having stopped regular meetings, no-one 
>> actually does anything at all, and SSF just fizzles out.  But I'd say 
>> if that happens, then it should be apparent that there wasn't enough 
>> oomph in the group to make stuff happen anyway...
>>
>> Anyway, write back and say what ya think - I'm sending a second e-mail 
>> with some specific ideas for future events and happenings.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> @mparo wrote:
>>
>>> Dear mariangela and pierre, and friends whose names i don't know yet,
>>>
>>> here from Sheffield, there was no meeting tonight as planned, due to
>>> circumstances unclear as tonight.
>>> There is a rumour that some killing may be involved., anyway the door
>>> was locked to the centre were the meeting was to be held. It was very
>>> dark with strong gale blowing through the streets, so the meeting was
>>> not attended by anyone.
>>> Therefore, it is implicitely agreed by IMPLICIT consensus that the
>>> document for Paris that you sent to the list is supported by each
>>> individual person of the Sheffield Social Forum in his/her own capacity.
>>>
>>> So i am signing this
>>> Amparo Perez Gutierrez
>>> Sheffield Social Forum, in her capacity
>>>
>>> ..........
>>>
>>> and suggest that this message is forwarded to every person with an 
>>> email address at the Sheffield SF site:
>>>
>>> www.sheffieldsocialforum.org/
>>>
>>> therefore, i will forward it to the ssf list...
>>>
>>> Good trip to Paris and Back
>>>
>>> @mp
>>>
>>> THursday December 16th, 2004
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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