[Ssf] Fallujah: murder televised on TV

noone noone machinevman at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 12 21:40:14 GMT 2004

hi jase
  I never wanted to bash the stw group but i just felt that it was relevent 
to express my experiences while i was participating in it and explaining why 
i feel that particular avenue is blocked.  Somehow i bet that if i suggested 
direct action it would be turned down or ridiculed _again_ in favour of a 
formulaic public meeting.


>From: spodulike at freeuk.com
>Reply-To: spodulike at freeuk.com
>To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
>Subject: Re: [Ssf] Fallujah: murder televised on TV
>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 19:15:15 +0000
>Cuthbert>   The only real option is direct action which has
>unfortunatly been effectively condemned by the stop the war coalition.
>[rant]Have to say I'm getting a little tired of all the STW bashing
>around and abouts. The SWP (and some other members of this politico
>group or that, but not all thankfully) believe that direct action is
>not going to get the masses along, they are after all a political group
>and thus compromise for political gain. They quite happily block roads (
>which accomplishes bugger all in my view) when they feel the 'time is
>right'. In Shef and nationally SWP have usually had the majority in the
>movement (tho' often in Shef only by one or two people) which has led
>to the feeling this is 'just the way STW is', which is not the case. If
>people don't like STW as it is then they could come along and change
>the movement, or if they don't fancy the stress, form another one (as
>suggested I think). But the main problem is that the numbers of people
>who turn out for anything tend to be small. There was an idea for a 24
>hour vigil which I liked, but who will turn up? Alison proposed we
>argue for walk outs from work, but who will get involved? (based on the
>last time we asked for walk outs not a lot). So rather than bashing STW
>or SWP or anyone else who at least *tries* I would suggest people bash
>all the lazy f********QW"£E$ who sit on their arse sucking up the
>comfortable lifestyle given to them and who would never work towards a
>better world because they are too busy stuffing their face with the
>blood and tears of their fellow humanity [/rant].
>There was Grass Roots Opposed to War which was planned as a direct
>action group, but think that folded cos of lack of interest (atw?). The
>social forum could of course spin off a peace/anti-war group. The
>strength of the social forum model is no need for the majority voting '
>united front' led from London type thing - just what people want to do.
>Even if an action just makes one person thinks about the world in a way
>they haven't before then it's worth it (that's what I keep telling
>myself anyways:) so small groups are not the problem, all protest is
>good, it just won't be the mass movement most on the 'left' want.
>On another point, whats the "Peace in Troubled Time" thing about Dan?
>Have not heard about it.
>Cheers and love to you all,
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>Ssf at lists.aktivix.org

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