[Ssf] Thursday 21st

Sheffield Anarchists sheffield_anarchists at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 14 15:43:18 BST 2004


Dan,
 
So there is a meeting at sharrow community centre, 6 - 8 21st oct?
 
Joe

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Today's Topics:

1. sheffieldsocialforum.org MIA (Chris)
2. Protest - I can, you can, anyone can! (Dan)
3. SSF - why don't you...? Three poster ideas. (Dan)
4. Re: Protest - I can, you can, anyone can! (Danny)
5. Transport to London available Friday (Stephen)
6. Sheffield Social Forum (Sheffield Anarchists)
7. Re: Sheffield Social Forum (Dan)
8. Guardian on the ESF and it's problems (Dan)
9. Question about London (Dan)
10. Re: sheffieldsocialforum.org MIA (atw)
11. Re: Question about London (atw)
12. Re: Question about London (spodulike at freeuk.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:57:46 +0100
From: Chris 
Subject: [Ssf] sheffieldsocialforum.org MIA
To: Sheffield Social Forum 
Cc: Tech list for the Sheffield Social Forum
, domains at lowtech.org
Message-ID: <20041012135746.GA21430 at aktivix.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi

The sheffieldsocialforum.org domain has been down for
almost two weeks now, lowtech haven't responded to the
email sent to them about this last week [1] perhaps
someone might be able to call in in person and ask them
what is going on?

Chris


PS This has been copied to the lowtech address listed in
the whois record for the domain:

http://samspade.org/t/lookat?a=sheffieldsocialforum.org

[1] http://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/ssf-tech/2004-October/000081.html 

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:29:26 +0100
From: Dan 
Subject: [Ssf] Protest - I can, you can, anyone can!
To: ssf 
Message-ID: <416C0666.40908 at aktivix.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I think I've sent this to the list before, but I thought I'd send it 
again. Bizarre - the BBC have, er, come up with this, um, er, really 
brilliant website with STACKS of stuff on, er... what might be called 
reclaiming power, or some such thing. They cover everything except how 
to build molotov cocktails. Although maybe they do that too and I just 
haven't looked hard enough.

Just goes to show what a wishy-washy liberal I am: it's exactly what I'd 
do if I were doing a similar website: make no prescription about what 
people WANT to take action on, and just supply people with the tools to 
do it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/

This page has everything on how to campaign, from publicity to protests 
to sit-ins to using the net: - and an excellent guide on how to research 
issues and how to avoid being sued:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/howtocampaign

And this page is entitled 'how to organise a protest'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/A1930916

Probably shouldn't tell too many people about this - direct action being 
encouraged by Auntie. Hardly likely to aid the romanticism of resisting 
the state, eh?

If they're not careful, they'll get their servers impounded by the FBI.

Dan

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:50:55 +0100
From: Dan 
Subject: [Ssf] SSF - why don't you...? Three poster ideas.
To: ssf 
Message-ID: <416C0B6F.8030506 at aktivix.org>
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WHY DON'T YOU
WHY DON'T YOU
WHY DON'T YOU,
JUST SWITCH OFF YOUR TELEVISION SET,
GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING LESS BORING INSTEAD.
SITTING AT HOME,
WATCHING TV,
TURN IT OFF,
NO GOOD TO ME,
WHY DON'T YOU,
WHY DON'T YOOOOOU,
GO, GO, GO!!

Sheffield Social Forum: cut down on your porklife

Or...

"Statistically, joining one group cuts in half your odds of dying next 
year."
[Sheffield social forum: good for your health.]
(That's actually true! Presuming it's not the army you just joined...)

Or...

You spend on average of two hours a day in your car.
You spend another two hours a day earning the money to pay for it.

That's eight years of your life, dude.

Sell your car, buy a bike.
Join the Sheffield Social Forum

(I just made those stats up, btw! Apart from the 8 years - and I think 
it's around 2 hours a day. Cost? Not sure. Still, it's gonna be 
between 4-8 years.)

Dan




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:38:58 +0100
From: "Danny" 
Subject: Re: [Ssf] Protest - I can, you can, anyone can!
To: "ssf" 
Message-ID: <002801c4b082$5af72580$0e00000a at coriolis9>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

"If they're not careful, they'll get their servers impounded by the FBI."

Lets not joke about it in light of a) the Hutton Inquiry and b) the upcoming
charter renewal eh?

:-(


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan" 
To: "ssf" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: [Ssf] Protest - I can, you can, anyone can!


> I think I've sent this to the list before, but I thought I'd send it
> again. Bizarre - the BBC have, er, come up with this, um, er, really
> brilliant website with STACKS of stuff on, er... what might be called
> reclaiming power, or some such thing. They cover everything except how
> to build molotov cocktails. Although maybe they do that too and I just
> haven't looked hard enough.
>
> Just goes to show what a wishy-washy liberal I am: it's exactly what I'd
> do if I were doing a similar website: make no prescription about what
> people WANT to take action on, and just supply people with the tools to
> do it.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/
>
> This page has everything on how to campaign, from publicity to protests
> to sit-ins to using the net: - and an excellent guide on how to research
> issues and how to avoid being sued:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/howtocampaign
>
> And this page is entitled 'how to organise a protest'.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/A1930916
>
> Probably shouldn't tell too many people about this - direct action being
> encouraged by Auntie. Hardly likely to aid the romanticism of resisting
> the state, eh?
>
> If they're not careful, they'll get their servers impounded by the FBI.
>
> Dan
> _______________________________________________
> Ssf mailing list
> Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssf
>
>



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:36:49 +0100
From: Stephen 
Subject: [Ssf] Transport to London available Friday
To: ssf ,
sheffield-anti-war-coalition at yahoogroups.co.uk
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed

Places in a car available to ESF and all points beyond in exchange for 
petrol contribution

Dep nr Devonshire Green 3.30 pm prompt Fri

email me
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sheffield Anarchists 
Subject: [Ssf] Sheffield Social Forum
To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
Message-ID: <20041012135505.10742.qmail at web61110.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi, i've been reading some stuff on the net about the Sheffield Social Forum
and I am interested in getting involved. I can't find any up to date stuff
(probably looking in the wrong place) so if you can let me know what is going
on, and how I can get involved, it would be much appreciated.

For your information, i'm a member of the Anarchist Federation.

In solidarity
Joe


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:13:00 +0100
From: Dan 
Subject: Re: [Ssf] Sheffield Social Forum
To: Sheffield Anarchists 
Cc: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
Message-ID: <416CD57C.2090803 at aktivix.org>
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Hallo Joe,

Dan here from SSF. 

First thing to do - subscribe to this list so you can post without 
needing a moderator's approval, and get in on the discussion:

Sorry - the www.sheffieldsocialforum.org website is down at the minute. 

http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssf

But you can go to -

http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/Main_Page

(Have you come across WIKIs before? Anyone can edit pages... it's 
proved a really useful tool for us.)

As to what's happening next: take a look at the current flyer doing the 
rounds -

http://www.spodulike.freeuk.com/ssf/ssf_esf_leaflet.pdf

(Scroll down for page 2!)

The Democracy cafes are from 6 to 8.

Our next meeting is on Thursday 21st October, Sharrow Community Hall, on 
John St, by Bramall Lane FC. (The building has letters on it - go down 
the road until you get to 'F', and you should see a sign for the 
community hall.)

It's a totallly open forum, and the direction we're taking is open too. 
We haven't planned any actions yet: the only one that's currently more 
likely is an anti-incinerator campaign - but that's just coz I happen to 
know some people in London who want to do a national day of action.

Anyone else on the list got thoughts on what's gonna happen in the next 
few months?

Dan
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Sheffield Anarchists wrote:

> Hi, i've been reading some stuff on the net about the Sheffield Social 
> Forum
> and I am interested in getting involved. I can't find any up to date stuff
> (probably looking in the wrong place) so if you can let me know what 
> is going
> on, and how I can get involved, it would be much appreciated.
>
> For your information, i'm a member of the Anarchist Federation.
> 
> In solidarity
> Joe
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:21:26 +0100
From: Dan 
Subject: [Ssf] Guardian on the ESF and it's problems
To: ssf 
Message-ID: <416CD776.3090202 at aktivix.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

http://society.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,7838,1325902,00.html

Fairly balanced, I guess...

Dan

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:39:59 +0100
From: Dan 
Subject: [Ssf] Question about London
To: ssf 
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Hia!

Who is going on which coaches to London?

We have some flyers now - but are there SSF people on specific coaches 
who could talk to people / pass round a list to get e-mails for getting 
people on to the announcements list?

Or do we know people on coaches who aren't SSF but might be sympathetic 
to giving flyers out?

??

Dan

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:05:39 +0100
From: atw 
Subject: Re: [Ssf] sheffieldsocialforum.org MIA
To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
Message-ID: <46412357.20041013090539 at totalserve.co.uk>
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Maybe the 1 years purchase of the domain has run out. Didn't we also
get www.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk ? That should be running for 2
years but type it in and you get, "Forbidden You don't have permission
to access / on this server." so don't know what's up with that.

Finally there should be a lowtech url too. Probably something like

www.sheffieldsocialforum.lowtech.org though that don't work so must be
something else.

steve



Chris> The sheffieldsocialforum.org domain has been down for
Chris> almost two weeks now, lowtech haven't responded to the
Chris> email sent to them about this last week [1] perhaps
Chris> someone might be able to call in in person and ask them
Chris> what is going on?

Chris> Chris


Chris> PS This has been copied to the lowtech address listed in
Chris> the whois record for the domain:

Chris> http://samspade.org/t/lookat?a=sheffieldsocialforum.org

Chris> [1]
Chris> http://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/ssf-tech/2004-October/000081.html



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:06:32 +0100
From: atw 
Subject: Re: [Ssf] Question about London
To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
Message-ID: <1636685408.20041013090632 at totalserve.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Have space for one leaving tomorrow morning if anyone is interested.

steve


Dan> Who is going on which coaches to London?



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:50:13 +0100
From: spodulike at freeuk.com
Subject: Re: [Ssf] Question about London
To: Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
Message-ID: 

I can do the 9:10 megabus tomorrow morning, might as well get em 
distributed however we can. Could do the return coaches as well, I'm on 
the 6:30 return on Sunday.

Give us a shout if you want any more printing.

How do people get signed up to the announcements list? Don't think I'm 
on it:)

> Hia!
> 
> Who is going on which coaches to London?
> 
> We have some flyers now - but are there SSF people on specific 
coaches 
> who could talk to people / pass round a list to get e-mails for 
getting 
> people on to the announcements list?
> 
> Or do we know people on coaches who aren't SSF but might be 
sympathetic 
> to giving flyers out?
> 
> ??
> 
> Dan
> _______________________________________________
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> Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssf
> 

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