[Ssf] US missiles might be coming to Yorkshire
dan at aktivix.org
dan at aktivix.org
Tue Oct 19 11:04:14 BST 2004
An excerpt from a bit of writing I did before the Iraq Ware:
"The UK government, in the past week, has decided to let the US use the
Fylingdales radar station (not too far north of Sheffield) as a key part of
this system [NMD]. This is despite the fact that, only a month ago, Geoff Hoon
published a report on NMD that offered "above all to provide a foundation for a
deeper debate of the issues concerned." The Commons defence committee is due to
complete a report into missile defence in a month's time. So: our government is
unwilling to wait for a committee report from its own parliament, it makes
noises about democratic consultation, but then does exactly as the US wants.
This one issue starkly reveals the nature of the relationship between the UK
and US administrations. Is this how it will be in Iraq?"
Er... yup!
p.s. the report - a 'public discussion paper':
http://www.mod.uk/issues/cooperation/missile_defence/intro.htm
What an absolute f**king sham.
love
Dan
Quoting Danny <forum_mail at monkeynews.net>:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3750294.stm
>
> So that'll be just up the road from us then.......
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sheffield Anarchists
> To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:43 PM
> Subject: [Ssf] Thursday 21st
>
>
> Dan,
>
> So there is a meeting at sharrow community centre, 6 - 8 21st oct?
>
> Joe
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> 1. sheffieldsocialforum.org MIA (Chris)
> 2. Protest - I can, you can, anyone can! (Dan)
> 3. SSF - why don't you...? Three poster ideas. (Dan)
> 4. Re: Protest - I can, you can, anyone can! (Danny)
> 5. Transport to London available Friday (Stephen)
> 6. Sheffield Social Forum (Sheffield Anarchists)
> 7. Re: Sheffield Social Forum (Dan)
> 8. Guardian on the ESF and it's p! roblems (Dan)
> 9. Question about London (Dan)
> 10. Re: sheffieldsocialforum.org MIA (atw)
> 11. Re: Question about London (atw)
> 12. Re: Question about London (spodulike at freeuk.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:57:46 +0100
> From: Chris
> Subject: [Ssf] sheffieldsocialforum.org MIA
> To: Sheffield Social Forum
> Cc: Tech list for the Sheffield Social Forum
> , domains at lowtech.org
> Message-ID: <20041012135746.GA21430 at aktivix.org>
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> Hi
>
> The sheffieldsocialforum.org domain has been down for
> almost two weeks now, lowtech haven't responded to the
> email sent to them about this last week [1] perhaps
> someone might be able to call in in person and ask them
> what is going on?
>
> Chris
>
>
> PS This has been copied to the lowtech ! address listed in
> the whois record for the domain:
>
> http://samspade.org/t/lookat?a=sheffieldsocialforum.org
>
> [1] http://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/ssf-tech/2004-October/000081.html
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:29:26 +0100
> From: Dan
> Subject: [Ssf] Protest - I can, you can, anyone can!
> To: ssf
> Message-ID: <416C0666.40908 at aktivix.org>
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>
> I think I've sent this to the list before, but I thought I'd send it
> again. Bizarre - the BBC have, er, come up with this, um, er, really
> brilliant website with STACKS of stuff on, er... what might be called
> reclaiming power, or some such thing. They cover everything except how
> to build molotov cocktails. Although maybe they do that too and I just
> haven't looked hard enough.
> Just goes to show what a wishy-washy liberal I am: it's exactly what I'd
>
> do if I were doing a similar website: make no prescription about what
> people WANT to take action on, and just supply people with the tools to
> do it.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/
>
> This page has everything on how to campaign, from publicity to protests
> to sit-ins to using the net: - and an excellent guide on how to research
>
> issues and how to avoid being sued:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/howtocampaign
>
> And this page is entitled 'how to organise a protest'.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/A1930916
>
> Probably shouldn't tell too many people about this - direct action being
>
> encouraged by Auntie. Hardly likely to aid the romanticism of resisting
> the state, eh?
>
> If they're not careful, they'll get their servers impounded by the FBI.
>
> Dan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:50:55 +0100
> From: Dan
> Subject: [Ssf] SSF - why don't you...? Three poster ideas.
> To: ssf
> Message-ID: <416C0B6F.8030506 at aktivix.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> WHY DON'T YOU
> WHY DON'T YOU
> WHY DON'T YOU,
> JUST SWITCH OFF YOUR TELEVISION SET,
> GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING LESS BORING INSTEAD.
> SITTING AT HOME,
> WATCHING TV,
> TURN IT OFF,
> NO GOOD TO ME,
> WHY DON'T YOU,
> WHY DON'T YOOOOOU,
> GO, GO, GO!!
>
> Sheffield Social Forum: cut down on your porklife
>
> Or...
>
> "Statistically, joining one group cuts in half your odds of dying next
> year."
> [Sheffield social forum: good for your health.]
> (That's actually true! Presuming it's not the army you just joined...)
>
> Or...
>
> You spend on average of two hours a day in your car.
> You spend another two hours a day earning the money to pay for it.
>
> That's eight years of your life, dude.
>
> Sell you! r car, buy a bike.
> Join the Sheffield Social Forum
>
> (I just made those stats up, btw! Apart from the 8 years - and I think
> it's around 2 hours a day. Cost? Not sure. Still, it's gonna be
> between 4-8 years.)
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:38:58 +0100
> From: "Danny"
> Subject: Re: [Ssf] Protest - I can, you can, anyone can!
> To: "ssf"
> Message-ID: <002801c4b082$5af72580$0e00000a at coriolis9>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> "If they're not careful, they'll get their servers impounded by the
> FBI."
>
> Lets not joke about it in light of a) the Hutton Inquiry and b) the
> upcoming
> charter renewal eh?
>
> :-(
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan"
> To: "ssf"
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 5:29 PM
> Subject: [Ssf] Protest - I can, you can! , anyone can!
>
>
> > I think I've sent this to the list before, but I thought I'd send it
> > again. Bizarre - the BBC have, er, come up with this, um, er, really
> > brilliant website with STACKS of stuff on, er... what might be called
> > reclaiming power, or some such thing. They cover everything except how
> > to build molotov cocktails. Although maybe they do that too and I just
> > haven't looked hard enough.
> >
> > Just goes to show what a wishy-washy liberal I am: it's exactly what
> I'd
> > do if I were doing a similar website: make no prescription about what
> > people WANT to take action on, and just supply people with the tools
> to
> > do it.
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/
> >
> > This page has everything on how to campaign, from publicity to
> protests
> > to sit-ins to using the net: - and an excellent guide on how to
> research
> > issues and how to avoid being sued:
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/howtocampaign
> >
> > And this page is entitled 'how to organise a protest'.
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ican/A1930916
> >
> > Probably shouldn't tell too many people about this - direct action
> being
> > encouraged by Auntie. Hardly likely to aid the romanticism of
> resisting
> > the state, eh?
> >
> > If they're not careful, they'll get their servers impounded by the
> FBI.
> >
> > Dan
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:36:49 +0100
> From: Stephen
> Subject: [Ssf] Transport to London available Friday
> To: ssf ,
> sheffield-anti-war-coalition at yahoogroups.co.uk
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed
>
> Places in a car available to ESF and all points beyond in exchange for
> petrol contribution
>
> Dep nr Devonshire Green 3.30 pm prompt Fri
>
> email me
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sheffield Anarchists
> Subject: [Ssf] Sheffield Social Forum
> To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> Message-ID: <20041012135505.10742.qmail at web61110.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi, i've been reading some stuff on the net about the Sheffield Social
> Forum
> and I am interested in getting involved. I can't find any up to date
> stuff
> (probably looking in the wrong place) so if you can let me know what is
> going
> on, and how I can get involved, it would be much appreciated.
>
> For your information, i'm a member of ! the Anarchist Federation.
>
> In solidarity
> Joe
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:13:00 +0100
> From: Dan
> Subject: Re: [Ssf] Sheffield Social Forum
> To: Sheffield Anarchists
> Cc: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> Message-ID: <416CD57C.2090803 at aktivix.org>
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> Hallo Joe,
>
> Dan here from SSF.
>
> First thing to do - subscribe to this list so you can post without
> needing a moderator's approval, and get in on the discussion:
>
> Sorry - the www.sheffieldsocialforum.org website is down at the minute.
>
> http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssf
>
> But you can go to -
>
> http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/Main_Page
>
> (Have you come across WIKIs before? Anyone can edit pages... it's
> proved a really useful tool for us.)
>
> As to what's happening next: take a look at the current flyer doing the
> rounds -
>
> http://www.spodulike.freeuk.com/ssf/ssf_esf_leaflet.pdf
>
> (Scroll down for page 2!)
>
> The Democracy cafes are from 6 to 8.
>
> Our next meeting is on Thursday 21st October, Sharrow Community Hall, on
>
> John St, by Bramall Lane FC. (The building has letters on it - go down
> the road until you get to 'F', and you should see a sign for the
> community hall.)
>
> It's a totallly open forum, and the direction we're taking is open too.
> We haven't planned any actions yet: the only one that's currently more
> likely is an anti-incinerator campaign - but that's just coz I happen to
>
> know some people in Lond! on who want to do a national day of action.
>
> Anyone else on the list got thoughts on what's gonna happen in the next
> few months?
>
> Dan
> ------------------------
> Sheffield Anarchists wrote:
>
> > Hi, i've been reading some stuff on the net about the Sheffield Social
>
> > Forum
> > and I am interested in getting involved. I can't find any up to date
> stuff
> > (probably looking in the wrong place) so if you can let me know what
> > is going
> > on, and how I can get involved, it would be much appreciated.
> >
> > For your information, i'm a member of the Anarchist Federation.
> >
> > In solidarity
> > Joe
> >
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:21:26 +0100
> From: Dan
> Subject: [Ssf] Guardian on the ESF and it's problems
> To: ssf
> Message-ID: <416CD776.3090202 at aktivix.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> http://society.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,7838,1325902,00.html
>
> Fairly balanced, I guess...
>
> Dan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:39:59 +0100
> From: Dan
> Subject: [Ssf] Question about London
> To: ssf
> Message-ID: <416CDBCF.2060203 at aktivix.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hia!
>
> Who is going on which coaches to London?
>
> We have some flyers now - but are there SSF people on specific coaches
> who could talk to people / pass round a list to get e-mails for getting
> people on to the announcements list?
>
> Or do we know people on coaches who aren't SSF but might be sympathetic
> to giving flyers out?
>
> ??
>
> Dan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:05:39 +0100
> From: atw
> Subject: Re: [Ssf] sheffieldsocialforum.org MIA
> To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> Message-ID: <46412357.20041013090539 at totalserve.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
> Maybe the 1 years purchase of the domain has run out. Didn't we also
> get www.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk ? That should be running for 2
> years but type i! t in and you get, "Forbidden You don't have permission
> to access / on this server." so don't know what's up with that.
>
> Finally there should be a lowtech url too. Probably something like
>
> www.sheffieldsocialforum.lowtech.org though that don't work so must be
> something else.
>
> steve
>
>
>
> Chris> The sheffieldsocialforum.org domain has been down for
> Chris> almost two weeks now, lowtech haven't responded to the
> Chris> email sent to them about this last week [1] perhaps
> Chris> someone might be able to call in in person and ask them
> Chris> what is going on?
>
> Chris> Chris
>
>
> Chris> PS This has been copied to the lowtech address listed in
> Chris> the whois record for the domain:
>
> Chris> http://samspade.org/t/lookat?a=sheffieldsocialforum.org
>
> Chris> [1]
> Chris>
> http://lists.aktivix.org/pipermail/ssf-tech/2004-October/000081.html
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Mes! sage: 11
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:06:32 +0100
> From: atw
> Subject: Re: [Ssf] Question about London
> To: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> Message-ID: <1636685408.20041013090632 at totalserve.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Have space for one leaving tomorrow morning if anyone is interested.
>
> steve
>
>
> Dan> Who is going on which coaches to London?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:50:13 +0100
> From: spodulike at freeuk.com
> Subject: Re: [Ssf] Question about London
> To: Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> Message-ID:
>
> I can do the 9:10 megabus tomorrow morning, might as well get em
> distributed however we can. Could do the return coaches as well, I'm on
> the 6:30 return on Sunday.
>
> Give us a shout if you want any more printing.
>
> How do people get signed up to the announcements list? Don't! think I'm
> on it:)
>
> > Hia!
> >
> > Who is going on which coaches to London?
> >
> > We have some flyers now - but are there SSF people on specific
> coaches
> > who could talk to people / pass round a list to get e-mails for
> getting
> > people on to the announcements list?
> >
> > Or do we know people on coaches who aren't SSF but might be
> sympathetic
> > to giving flyers out?
> >
> > ??
> >
> > Dan
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ssf mailing list
> > Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
> > http://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssf
> >
>
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