[Ssf] local news

[noone noone]

  The thing is that gun crime is a growing problem in sheffield  but i am 
sure that the way to deal with it is not to presume guilt on everyone, even 
those that go to the quiet clubs where there isnt any trouble.  I suppose 
this is the problem when the police make their own laws.  I was also 
concerned when the article mentioned the fiming of people inside the clubs 
so they can "observe links".  I am the type of person that not many people 
forget so often people often walk over and say hi, this doesnt mean that i 
am 'involved' with them.  I guess that it is part of this erosion of 
'innocent untill proven guilty' that has culminated in ID cards and such 
like.

It gets abit more worrying when further down the article it mentions that 
private companies will record everyone who goes through thier doors and will 
keep the information in a database.  It makes ID cards seem almost redundant 
when this type of system is already in place.  Then again many draconian 
measures have been put in place to stop crime and soon enough they find 
other people to use them on (e.g. animal rights protestors).

for now
cuthbert

>From: Amparo <amparo.gutierrez at tiscali.co.uk>
>To: noone noone <machinevman at hotmail.com>
>CC: Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
>Subject: Re: [Ssf] local news
>Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:45:55 +0100
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>"There is an element of big brother about it, but it will make sure no-one 
>is hurt. It is needed to enable people's safety and ensure a genuinely fun 
>clubbing experience.
>"I can understand if some people complain about it but I would rather use 
>Draconian measures and make sure everybody is safe
>
>yes, noone noone, this further shows that Little Britain has become a 
>paternalistic and patronising nation-state,
>this episode seems symptomatic, and if you'd allow me some abstract 
>thought, would only lead to more repressed violence in the middle and 
>long-term.
>A translator friend of mine, when discussing British excess of regulations 
>concerning every issue of daily life, said: "That is why they (young 
>British visitors) break every rule when they come down to Ibiza and here 
>they behave as they do". Well, from an insider point of view, this will 
>certainly not harm local life. But ... increased need of control, why? this 
>further shows that "father" ("pater-nalistic") is becoming insane. Why? 
>US-like policies being applied? i don't know,
>
>the above may not sound gentle enough, nor grateful enough, coming from a 
>non British person (myself, amparo), but what the hell, sometimes one 
>manages to think, and compare.
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>By the way, but completely another issue: The Sheffield Gazette reports 
>that thousands of pounds have been awarded to a Burngreave writing fund, 
>very recently. Sorry can't find the paper issue right now. Also, a woman 
>has been chronicling Burngreave life for the last 3 years, her picture 
>appears on paper.
>
>Nice to hear again from you
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