[ssf] Rage Against Hallam

Alice Collins Angeltime at btopenworld.com
Tue Feb 8 10:58:47 GMT 2005


HI everyone,
Apparently the singing event launching Make Poverty History campaign in
Sheffield has been changed.
It's changed from Weds 16th at 1pm at Univ. concourse to Tues. 15th  (same
time - same place). Change caused by something to do with Univ, not sure
what.
Love alice



----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Malins" <chrismalins at gmail.com>
To: "Who ate" <who_ate_my_shoes at hotmail.com>
Cc: <ssf at lists.aktivix.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ssf] Rage Against Hallam


> The degree of separation between universities and students' unions is an
> interesting issue. Especially since the Education Act, 1994, students'
> unions have been legally owned by their respective universities, and
> cannot, for instance, adjust their own policies and constitutions if the
>   parent universities refuse to permit them do so so. On
> representational issues, universities tend to be circumspect about
> interference with students unions, as there is still a sleeping giant in
> the students movement which ahs just not been awakened for a while.
> However, it might be worth finding out what the relationship was between
> your union and university on these property deals, and to what extent
> having the university finance and arrange the transfer of premises your
> union is undertaling is on the union's independence. Is the union going
> to pay rent on the NCPM buildings, if so then clearly it is heavily tied
> to the university and if not surely that makes the union more like a
> department of the university than a body whose key role is oppositional.
> It might be worth considering seriously whether having this new facility
> empowers your students' union or restricts it; don't forget that the key
> role of a students' union should be to ensure that the student body is
> represented to the university, and that students remain a key priority
> for universities at a time when commercial operations threaten to take
> the administrations focus away. Also, if your university generates this
> sort of resentment in the local community, it will very likely be
> reflected back at students: have you considered looking into the issues
> around the NCPM purchase thoroughly, and deciding whether as a student
> you would actually like to join the campaign?
>
> Chris
>
> Who ate wrote:
> > Thanks for your response. You can understand my concerns as the Rage
> > against Hallam website does not distinguish between the university and
> > the students union which although not as separate as we would like are
> > two differnent organisations.
> >
> > I would be interested to know if anyone has approached the union about
> > using the new building and what the response was like.
> >
> > Hopefully see you in person on the 17th
> >
> >
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