[ssf] G8 - openness and planning thoughts...

[@mparo]

1. Openness
>  2. Convergence center and counter-conference 3. Youth engagement 4.
>  Street event
5. Advice, support and solidarity to others


>  I think if SSF takes an open stance then that in a way solves the
>  non-violence thing. People who want to go down that route go
>  elsewhere.



Of course I would agree to non-violent, peaceful resistance approach 
from the very beginning of any preparations. But

"People who want to go down that route" as Jase says,  won't go 
elsewhere, I mean, they will be here, in Sheffield if not inside the SF, 
they are a part of the situation, as a whole...

And they will be exposing themselves to great danger and risk, in 
particular under present bills and acts. They will be doing this for our 
sake, too, (needs discussing and email is confusing), even if not 
wanted. And a safety net is needed here, if we (the peaceful huddle so 
to speak) are to be performing "the best practice", imho the best 
practice here (even if a bit heroic, perhaps a bit quixotic ) would be 
to be there, to provide legal warning and advice BEFORE they are 
arrested and AFTER they are arrested, and to be willing to create a 
support network for them, for these other activists who might get into 
real trouble and won't deserve to be kicked off or let down or even 
"betrayed" by their own. (putting yourselves in their shoes for an 
instant). I thought this could be a point in an agenda. Any volunteers?

R&A


Jase wrote:

>  1. Openness I would agree with. Some peoples actions do not converge
>  with openness. I think if SSF takes an open stance then that in a way
>  solves the non-violence thing. People who want to go down that route
>  go elsewhere. I wouldn't say the paranoia is entirely misplaced, look
>  at the attack on the Genoa SSF centre in that G8 meeting, but then
>  Italy is not the UK, and thankfully in this country there is less of
>  an oppositional stance in the civil authorities which would, and did
>  in Italy, permit such an action. Also being open means if anything
>  did happen we could point out just how stupid it was.
>