http://www.leedstidal.org/g8rides/ and also http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/g82005/bikeride.html Imagine Steve knows about this (?) Sheffield is a stop over point and some people are talking about coming over for the June summit. If no-one shouts up I'll make contact, can't say I'm that qualified to having only got into cycling in the last couple o' weeks! Jason