[ssf] [Fwd: [imc-sheffield] no 2 id meetings]

Mon Jan 31 10:02:59 GMT 2005

Hi,

Unless anyone objects, I'm taking 0742 off the social forum list. It's 
Mozaz. (See e-mail to IMC-Sheffield below - Mozaz sent it to IMC, 0742 
to SSF. And both 0742 and Mozaz use colons instead of full stops.)

This is getting really boring now.

Dan

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[imc-sheffield] no 2 id meetings
Date: 	Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:24:52 +0000 (GMT)
From: 	mark mozaz wallis <markmozazwallis at yahoo.co.uk>
To: 	imc-sheffield at lists.indymedia.org

Everyone knows about the danger: not the seemingly
harmless bit of plastic in
your wallet –but a massive and intrusive database that
fundamentally changes
the nature of UK Citizenship.

Generic media the ID card Bill -

Generic media the "serious organized" crimes Bill -

The ID card and National identity register are not the
Government's only tools.
There are other supplementary Bills, like the Serious
Organised Crime and
Agency Bill.

If both bills are approved (that's why we have to act
NOW), then it will be
possible for anyone to be fingerprinted without
consent.

You can find the Bill here, in whichever format you
prefer:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmbills/008/2005008.htm

And the list of amendments here (link to successive
pages at the bottom of
each):

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmbills/008/amend/cmam008.htm

The legislation referred to in the article from the
Independent is contained in
the Serious Organised Crimes and Police bill, which is
going to call for the
construction of the Serious Organised Crimes Agency.

This is widely referred to as the UK version of the
USAs FBI.

Now, this bill, in the follow quoted section, contains
law that will make it
possible for police to fingerprint anyone they cannot
otherwise ID, even if
they are not under arrest or anything;

108 Fingerprints
A constable may take a person’s fingerprints without
the appropriate
consent if—
(a) the constable reasonably suspects that the person
is committing
or attempting to commit an offence, or has committed
or
attempted to commit an offence; and
(b) either of the two conditions mentioned in
subsection (6B) is met.
(6B) The conditions are that—
(a) the name of the person is unknown to, and cannot
be readily
ascertained by, the constable;
(b) the constable has reasonable grounds for doubting
whether a
name furnished by the person as his name is his real
name.

The bill, just before the part above, also allows the
photographs or video clips
to be taken of anyone contain within the above
categories, not just by police,
but also now by the army of CSOs that patrol our
streets.

All of this new technology is available to the police
now, because they have
just recently completed the transition to the new
TETRA digital radio system
(instead of the older analogue radios), which allow
for the transmission of
data along side voice comms.

When viewed alongside the Identity card bill, this is
a meaningful development,
as the ID bill allows the government (the home
secretary really) to allow
anyone they choose to have access to the information
contained within in -
information which obviously includes, or will include
eventually, the
fingerprints and iris scan of everyone in the country.

The key thing to remember is that the prints taken on
the road side will not be
added to the database - it's only to check ID on the
spot...

However, it is another candid display of the
governments desire for a police
state-like country where everybody has a file that is
centrally stored, and
anyone can be fingerprinted and the like on demand.

Sadly, it tells us more about their authoritarian
tendencies to control and
know, than about their wanting to defend out freedoms.

Join your Sheffield local campaign:

sheffield at no2id.net

Web page under construction.
Links:
 http://www.no2id.net/
 http://wiki.sheffieldsocialforum.org.uk/
 http://www.defy-id.org.uk/
 http://www.riseup.net/

There is a meeting which is open to all based upon
seeds for change format: This
will take place from 6pm at new roots cafe, Burngreave
Thursday Feb 10th 05: The
G8 Justice and Home Affairs ministers are having a
mini-summit in Sheffield,
(http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/sheffield/2005/01/304469.html)
June
15th - 18th. Already groups across Sheffield are
planning actions and events
for this date: If you want to be part of the growing
network of people who are
not 4 the g8/id cards, desire to be part of an ad-hoc
group of non organised
non hierarchical people then join the urbanparanoia
elist email:
no2idsheffield at riseup.net

ID cards are a "poll tax" upon all: Our time is not to
be passive but active:
also goto  http://www.defy-id.org.uk/greasypalms.htm
you will note some of
those who will profit from this are based right here
in sheffield: Over the
next few weeks we aim to hit them hard: Come to
meeting to get involved:

mozaz
 http://urbanparanoia.co.uk/g8

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