[ssf] Re: Thanks to CIRCA

[eironeia]

This is a great country to live in when you see programs like the one on 
torture by channel 4, quoted by two of us at least. Yes, then "paranoia" 
(or better, fear) levels decrease, as long as there's hope and freedom 
of speech; ah this might sound cynical, it's not, the guys who produced 
that program are my true heroes, because it's against torture,

when I see Indymedia news going on... there is freedom and i can breathe 
in such a space, and of course i am grateful.
And *CIRCA*'s offer and arrival seem an incredible gift.
:-)


Difficult to explain torture to children, to justify it would be simply 
perverse. That's a good reason to protest at Jeight. And another reason: 
to stop their next war.


But then, beware (:-)

(Iran is next on Ms. Condo's bombing agenda (or Syria perhaps?). We'll 
still hear tons of stuff on its lack of freedom, dictatorship etc to 
justify their next war. ... This is called soft power, 
momentum-building. ) And if there is next war.

If the House of Lords approves the bills... we're done. If it doesn't, 
then this is SOME country,

;.....::::****



(x wrote):

Then there is the modern day "liberal democrats" who in my opinion tend to
 > be very opportunistic and all things to all people, currently they oppose
 > detention without trial unless it is OK'd by a judge.
 >
 > Then there is dan's very own brand of liberalism which is best 
described as
 > being woolly(!)
 >
 > I think it is about trying to be nice to people and doing stuff for the
 > greater good but who knows!






> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 22:33:04 +0000
> From: John Jordan <artactivism at gn.apc.org>
> Subject: [ssf] Re: CIRCA tour
> To: Dan <dan at aktivix.org>
> Cc: Three Spirals <three_spirals at yahoo.com>,	matthew TREVELYAN
> 	<matthewtrevelyan at hotmail.com>, Ssf at lists.aktivix.org
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> 
> this all sounds great ....
> 
> only issue would be to make sure we can have a self contained room 
> within the convergence centre for 30 rebel clown recruits - as its 
> hard to find your clown when there is no privacy !! ie in a big 
> public space !!!
> 
> will send an email to you all tommorow with list of our needs etc ..
> 
> love and rebellion
> JJXXX
> 
> At 12:18 pm +0000 25/2/05, Dan wrote:
> 
>>Hey up John n peeps,
>>
>>(I've included the ssf list in this e-mail: note John's e-mail below 
>>re the planned arrival of CIRCA in Sheffield.  Everyone cool with 
>>this?  Let's discuss next Thursday - for which we don't yet have a 
>>venue!)
>>
>>Well: Peace in the Park is now moving!
>>
>>But: - it's looking MOST likely that Sheffield Social Forum and 
>>others will be organising the following in the week leading up to 
>>the G8 Justice ministers arriving, i.e. shall we say 9th to the 
>>18th....
>>
>>1. Convergence centre (which will need to have space for training, 
>>so hopefully wherever we end up with will suit your purposes John.)
>>2. G8 Call out to get others to Sheffield - a little warm-up before 
>>the Gleneagles event.
>>3. Some kind of counter-conference event during the actual G8 days
>>4. A street event also
>>
>>We don't know where the ministers are going to be, and I'm 
>>suggesting we plan whatever we do so that it doesn't matter.
>>John: how do these changed plans fit in with your vision of things?
>>
>>If it's all OK, we'll start sorting things like getting permissions 
>>for the town centre...
>>
>>See ya,
>>
>>Dan
>>----
>>
>>1) We arrive in sheff on thursday and do street interventions in 
>>town Friday day and that evening do the caravan show ( its no longer 
>>a big top !!- but an exploding caravan) in a public space - a 
>>shopping precint or somthing similar - ( we would need you lot to 
>>suggest a suitable venue and help us get permissions etc)
>>
>>2) Trainings - as its a 2 day intensive for 30 participants - its 
>>not really suitable to do it in a tent during a festival where 
>>people come and go - so i suggest we find a church hall/community 
>>centre /social centre etc .. and book it for the 2 days (Sat/SUn) ( 
>>a kind of NVDA annnex to the festival perhaps ??)
>>
>>3) then on sat eve we do the second caravan show in the park at the 
>>festival in the eve...
>>does that make sense??
>>
>>would be great to hear asap as we are juggling like crazy and need 
>>to get publicity out asap..
>>hope you are all well
>>love JJXX
>>
>>John Jordan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>HI sheff folk -- i just looked at the ssf minutes and saw no 
>>>mention of the tour - and havent heard back since last email re 
>>>peace in teh park etc. and new dates ..so got a bit worried !!!! as 
>>>clowns do tend to be a bit neurotic when they havent got noses on 
>>>!!!
>>>could someone confirm asap - ( as we are being asked to go 
>>>everywhere and if there isnt energy in one place then we might 
>>>consider changing our venues ) that you still want us and dates - 
>>>June 9th - 12th
>>> etc are ok
>>>JJXXX
>>>
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