[ssf] [sheffield-anti-war-coalition] constitution

[Adam Moran]

14 Apr 2006 23:37:50 -0000 GERALD ALI wrote:

>> According to Morgan researches, he was known as ''the Father of Anthropology'', he was accepted as such throughout the universities of both Britain and America, the American constitution is essentially the same as the one developed by the Seneca - Iroquois.

My minds been playing word association football with the Seneca's dream,
amongst other things. Here's a commentary on another dream -- *The Dream 
of Macsen Wledig*:

  "We'll mix their Bride-lights
   with the lights of Syriac God bearers,
   and gusty flames they coax within wattle hedge
   shall call to carried flame lit from Demetre's torch ...

   ... til, in the woof of time
   they'll be but one queen of the candles,
   and by whatever name they call her
   she'll be in Roman rig." -- David Jones

The story of *The Fair Unknown* as much in common with *The Dream of 
Macsen Wledig* -- Snowdon, Elene, and a secluded son, but here, 
Sovereignty is represented by two women and transitory states:

   The Fair Unknown
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   The hero of the story was brought up by his mother,
   who kept him secluded,
   calling him only Beau-Fis (Handsome Son).

   He accounted himself in a dead knight's armour
   when he was grown
   and went up to Arthur's court at Glastonbury.

   Because the boy could not name himself,
   Arthur called him Libeaus Desconus (the Fair Unknown).

   He was knighted and taught arms by Gawain.

   A maiden called Elene
   rode into Arthur's hall
   demanding help to rescue her mistress
   who was imprisoned in the castle of Sinadoun (Snowdon).

   Libeaus Desconus claimed the adventure
   and Arthur granted it to him,
   to Elene's disgust,
   since she expected an experienced knight
   to ride with her.

   After many adventures,
   they came to Sinadoun
   where Libeaus Desconus learned from a steward
   that the Lady of the castle
   had been imprisoned by two clerks:

      Mabon and Yarin, his brother.
      They were magicians
      and kept the lady in durance
      until she granted her hand in marriage.

   Libeaus Desconus entered the castle
   and found there only minstrels
   and beautiful furnishings.

   As he proceeded,
   the music ceased
   and the castle shook with thunder.

   He fought Mabon and Yrain,
   overcoming them,
   but there bodies vanished.

   Dismayed,
   he prayed to the Virgin
   and saw a worm
   with a face of a woman
   emerged from the wall.

   Libeaus was transfixed with terror
   as the worm twined about him
   and kissed him.

   As she did so,
   the wings and tail fell from her
   and she appeared as a naked women.

   She said that she had been
   enchanted by Mabon and Yrain
   and that she would marry him

   ( Written about 1350 )

14 Apr 2006 23:37:50 -0000 GERALD ALI wrote:

>> The American constitution is essentially the same as the English constitution, which dates back to the 1080's implemented by the Normans. Two references in the Anglo Saxon Chronicles openly state it is non religious.

I rode to York last week
and wandered 'round the main museum,
through the markets
then 'round the cathedral

Tangentially,
Morgan le Fey,
plays the part of Mabon
in Chaucer's *Wife of Bath's Tale*.

   "He was dubious of much
    that these poets asserted
    though they were indeed
    most skilled artists
    and remembrances and conservators
    of the things of the Island,

    yet he suspected that they tended
    to be weavers of the fabulous
    and were men over-jealous of their status,
    and secretive touching their traditio,

    but then,
    after all,
    their disciplina was other than his
    and this he knew for certain

      that whatever else they were,
      they were men who loved the things of the Island
      and so did he." -- David Jones

                      -- Caitlin Matthews

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> For all who are interested in science (knowledge) a few passages from L H Morgan, to illustrate some aspects of ''constitution'' all passages have the word constitution within them, the extracts are taken from his book Ancient Society.
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> It seems, from the vague rumours we are receiving in Britain, that there may be occasionally questioning  going about in the States regarding their constitution, some niggling worry over their freedoms apparently, and also the same question that is being asked in Iraq, What is a Democratic Republic ?
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> The American constitution is essentially the same as the English constitution, which dates back to the 1080's implemented by the Normans. Two references in the Anglo Saxon Chronicles openly state it is non religious.
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> England was maintained on the basis of the counties, around forty of them,  with a central government but no great central state machine, each county had it's own state and state machine, each with it's own democratic gov'.
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> No part of any American state can secede from the union, but any state can, because each state is a nation in it's own right.
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> Officially according to the constitution there is NO such thing as ''An American Nation'', officially it doesn't exist, except in ''dream'', the ''religious opiate of Utopia''.
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> (The Normans lost out in 1150 to the French [franks, branch of the Germans and catholic, with a liking for the centralised monolithic state] their King Steven was defeated, the period is recorded as the ''Anarchy'', a good period to study to find the correct meaning of anarchy, ''opposition to rule from above i.e. the state'' and gov' of the people,  not as the modern bourgeois anarchists claim ''no government''.)
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> The borders of England had been defined: the borders were changed in the period of Henry 8th to include Wales based on a re-vision/ reinterpretation of history to justify the act.
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> Some time prior to the Norman arrival, some of the Angles with support from some of the Saxon group had invaded and occupied parts of Wales, short lived, they eventually lost and were removed.
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> The Normans fully accepted the Welsh English border as also the Scots English border.
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> It's only from the time of Henry 8th that the ''Anglo - Saxon myth'' has been in force.
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> According to Morgan researches, he was known as ''the Father of Anthropology'', he was accepted as such throughout the universities of both Britain and America, the American constitution is essentially the same as the one developed by the Seneca - Iroquois.


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