[blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm

[robert]

Hi all!
Would very much like to keep the server and the forum going. Don't have
the technical skill to upgrade the server by myself, but willing to help
in any way i can. Also, i can take resposibility for maintaining the
forum if Junichirô and you all wish - but if so, i'll need admin access.

Even with good intentions, my work for BLAG over the last couple of
years has been limited to maintaining the icons and some simple themes.
I've made a few (pathetic) attempts at spinning a new BLAG version, and
i'll probably try again - but can't promise any big success on my own.

So - if you are reading this and feel just a little bit motivated: Let's
have another go at keeping BLAG alive!

Thanks,
robert (veganix)


fr., 20.09.2013 kl. 11.51 -0500, skrev vladimirpunk at radiomexico.com:
> I hope somebody else answear. 
> 
> Only has passed 2 years since the last blag version, I don't see why
> we could think is not going up again, at the forum recently a new user
> reported to be comfortable using blag 140k and especting a new one.
> There are persons interesed in the project, I proposse give it more
> time and make an effort to share the project with more people. I'm
> sure more than one would be happy with a new blag distribution (even,
> I would say, some part of the dissapointed fedora comunity coud come
> with us).
>   If it counts, I'm still interested in a new blag version, I'll do my
> best to keep it up  again. If there is anybody else interested please
> answear, if no I understand if you want to close the site.
>      Vladimir 
> 
>         
>         ----- Mensaje original -----
>         De:
>         Alexandre Oliva <lxoliva at fsfla.org>
>         
>         Para:
>         "Ward Vandewege" <ward at fsf.org>
>         Cc:
>         
>         Enviado:
>         Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:16:57 -0300
>         Asunto:
>         Re: [blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
>         
>         
>         [adding the blag list]
>         
>         Hi, Ward,
>         
>         On Sep 17, 2013, Ward Vandewege wrote:
>         
>         > RMS mentioned that you'd like to shut down the blag VM.
>         
>         It's not so much that I'd like to; quite the opposite. I just
>         told him
>         what the status was and asked for help in enlisting volunteers
>         to bring
>         it back to life, because it would be very useful for me if
>         BLAG carried
>         on, but I can't undertake the effort of maintaining it by
>         myself :-(
>         
>         The problem is that I don't think it's responsible to keep an
>         unmaintained server connected to the Internet without security
>         updates
>         for so long, and since I'm the person who requested the VM and
>         signed up
>         as responsible for it, I must live up to the responsibility
>         and do
>         something about it.
>         
>         BLAG has not had updates or new releases for a couple of
>         years, if not
>         more, and I don't know that anyone has been working on such
>         things; I'm
>         told by other blag maintainers that by now users and
>         developers have
>         moved on to other distros, or to Fedora with the Freed-ora
>         builds of GNU
>         Linux-libre, and BLAG is dead :-(
>         
>         So, this email should be taken as a call for volunteers who'd
>         like to
>         organize and take over its maintainership, so as to stop us
>         from
>         bringing the unmaintained server down.
>         
>         Another possibility, in case there's still a community using
>         the forum,
>         the server, whatever, is to upgrade the server to Fedora 19,
>         minus the
>         proprietary server in it, and the Freed-ora kernel. Of course,
>         it
>         wouldn't make sense to undertake that effort if it wouldn't be
>         used.
>         
>         
>         > Is there any data on the VM that you would like to preserve?
>         
>         Thanks for asking. I have my own backups of the server, that
>         I'll
>         probably keep around for a while, but others might want to
>         copy
>         something out too.
>         
>         So, this email may also be regarded as a chance for people who
>         want to
>         copy stuff out of the server to do so.
>         
>         8~-(
>         
>         How about we tentatively schedule the blag server shutdown to
>         the end of
>         the month? Barring signs that the, erhm, patient is not dead,
>         of course
>         ;-)
>         
>         Thanks,
>         
>         -- 
>         Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter http://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/
>         You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
>         Be Free! -- http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member
>         Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer
>         
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