[blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
tristan
pinmaritim at riseup.net
Sun Sep 22 12:46:32 UTC 2013
Bonjour A Tous
Blag 140k is simply a great""piece of Art"..i don't understand;you seem
to have no support from the FSF & Gnu-org.
Why?
Is gNewSense pulling all the cover?i tried the latest released,not
only the installation failed but on the 'Live Cd' it made me think
of a php Webpage...!!2.3 was nicer but no comparaison to..BLAG
140k,which as i wrote earlier i have deddicated to an external hard
disc.(still super fast..)
what can we do ?as average users with no technical knowledge;
is it a question of finance?
or of mainteneers&developpers?servers?
the main difference with all the flashy codec(x) fancy button distros
is that there is a philosophy behind it....
if Blag dissapears i would be very unhappy with the Gnu-org
& the Fsf,considering that they have not defended such a great project.
merci en tous les cas a tous.
amicalement tristan.
Le 22/09/2013 14:11, Unknown a écrit :
> Hi All
>
> I too would like to see the servers continue, because some people are
> leaving I don't see why they think they are the only one who needed it.
>
> Please, Please continue to maintain the servers, website and forum for
> us poor blaggers who still and always will use blag.
>
> I am still using Blag 140K it works perfect and do all that the new
> bells and whistle OS do and some that they cannot do. Yes I am running
> kernel 3.11.1 and I do all the necessary security updates.
>
> Blag is still needed and used by us simple blaggers who understand that
> a great OS don't have to be the latest must have.
>
> Regards
>
> Weyasey
>
> On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 00:10 +0200, robert wrote:
>> Hi all!
>> Would very much like to keep the server and the forum going. Don't have
>> the technical skill to upgrade the server by myself, but willing to help
>> in any way i can. Also, i can take resposibility for maintaining the
>> forum if Junichirô and you all wish - but if so, i'll need admin access.
>>
>> Even with good intentions, my work for BLAG over the last couple of
>> years has been limited to maintaining the icons and some simple themes.
>> I've made a few (pathetic) attempts at spinning a new BLAG version, and
>> i'll probably try again - but can't promise any big success on my own.
>>
>> So - if you are reading this and feel just a little bit motivated: Let's
>> have another go at keeping BLAG alive!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> robert (veganix)
>>
>>
>> fr., 20.09.2013 kl. 11.51 -0500, skrevvladimirpunk at radiomexico.com:
>>> I hope somebody else answear.
>>>
>>> Only has passed 2 years since the last blag version, I don't see why
>>> we could think is not going up again, at the forum recently a new user
>>> reported to be comfortable using blag 140k and especting a new one.
>>> There are persons interesed in the project, I proposse give it more
>>> time and make an effort to share the project with more people. I'm
>>> sure more than one would be happy with a new blag distribution (even,
>>> I would say, some part of the dissapointed fedora comunity coud come
>>> with us).
>>> If it counts, I'm still interested in a new blag version, I'll do my
>>> best to keep it up again. If there is anybody else interested please
>>> answear, if no I understand if you want to close the site.
>>> Vladimir
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Mensaje original -----
>>> De:
>>> Alexandre Oliva<lxoliva at fsfla.org>
>>>
>>> Para:
>>> "Ward Vandewege"<ward at fsf.org>
>>> Cc:
>>>
>>> Enviado:
>>> Wed, 18 Sep 2013 23:16:57 -0300
>>> Asunto:
>>> Re: [blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
>>>
>>>
>>> [adding the blag list]
>>>
>>> Hi, Ward,
>>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2013, Ward Vandewege wrote:
>>>
>>> > RMS mentioned that you'd like to shut down the blag VM.
>>>
>>> It's not so much that I'd like to; quite the opposite. I just
>>> told him
>>> what the status was and asked for help in enlisting volunteers
>>> to bring
>>> it back to life, because it would be very useful for me if
>>> BLAG carried
>>> on, but I can't undertake the effort of maintaining it by
>>> myself :-(
>>>
>>> The problem is that I don't think it's responsible to keep an
>>> unmaintained server connected to the Internet without security
>>> updates
>>> for so long, and since I'm the person who requested the VM and
>>> signed up
>>> as responsible for it, I must live up to the responsibility
>>> and do
>>> something about it.
>>>
>>> BLAG has not had updates or new releases for a couple of
>>> years, if not
>>> more, and I don't know that anyone has been working on such
>>> things; I'm
>>> told by other blag maintainers that by now users and
>>> developers have
>>> moved on to other distros, or to Fedora with the Freed-ora
>>> builds of GNU
>>> Linux-libre, and BLAG is dead :-(
>>>
>>> So, this email should be taken as a call for volunteers who'd
>>> like to
>>> organize and take over its maintainership, so as to stop us
>>> from
>>> bringing the unmaintained server down.
>>>
>>> Another possibility, in case there's still a community using
>>> the forum,
>>> the server, whatever, is to upgrade the server to Fedora 19,
>>> minus the
>>> proprietary server in it, and the Freed-ora kernel. Of course,
>>> it
>>> wouldn't make sense to undertake that effort if it wouldn't be
>>> used.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Is there any data on the VM that you would like to preserve?
>>>
>>> Thanks for asking. I have my own backups of the server, that
>>> I'll
>>> probably keep around for a while, but others might want to
>>> copy
>>> something out too.
>>>
>>> So, this email may also be regarded as a chance for people who
>>> want to
>>> copy stuff out of the server to do so.
>>>
>>> 8~-(
>>>
>>> How about we tentatively schedule the blag server shutdown to
>>> the end of
>>> the month? Barring signs that the, erhm, patient is not dead,
>>> of course
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighterhttp://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/
>>> You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
>>> Be Free! --http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member
>>> Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer
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