[Campaignforrealdemocracy] [project2012] Re: [EM-activists] Building Democracy Village | Important !!!

Mark Barrett marknbarrett at googlemail.com
Mon May 10 06:42:45 UTC 2010


We need something to distinguish ourselves as revolutionaries while
also showing solidarity. Something non divisive. How about blank
rainbow placards. Could be purple to show support for Take Back
Parliament. Green with Climate fighters. White for peace. Black, red
etc. Imagine the whole square or one big demo full of blank placards

On 10/05/2010, mariastella nash <mariastellanash at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good luck! This could be an omen - the Icelandic ash plume had an effect on
> the French Revolution maybe it is the time for the English Revolution
>
> Maria
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> --- On Mon, 10/5/10, Elizabeth Power <power1931 at googlemail.com> wrote:
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> From: Elizabeth Power <power1931 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: [project2012] Re: [EM-activists] Building Democracy Village |
> Important !!!
> To: election-meltdown-activists-group at googlegroups.com
> Cc: project2012 at googlegroups.com,
> campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org, "climate camp London"
> <climatecamp-london at lists.riseup.net>
> Date: Monday, 10 May, 2010, 0:27
>
> People, this is not time for carping but one for working and acting.
> It's probable the banks are collapsing tomorrow. We have a whole week to
> build up the action for dark moon Saturday May 15, midnight when climate
> emergency has called vigil and Democracy Village is already on the ground.
> Let's link up now. We have no one in charge in London and we have a velvet
> revolution on our hands.
> Go for it!Check outhttp://meltdown.uk.net/election/Peoples_Assemblies.html
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> On 9 May 2010 19:39, Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
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> A decision was made yesterday at the Camp to hold public / camp
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> planning meetings every day at 12 noon and then again at 7pm. I think
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> it is vital that the comments below taken from Amelia's magazine are
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> taken on board, and QUICKLY if we are to build camp before any kind of
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> proper administration is set up in Downing Street. DV need sto make a
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> clear statement about what Democracy Village is about - and quick or
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> the trick will be missed. It is NOT simply about Afganistan, that is
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> the work of Peace Strike and Parliament Square Peace Campaign PSPC and
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> DV should not be in any way merely a hippy extension of their
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> projects; that serves neither them nor the cause of Meltdown, the
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> Campaign for Real Democracy or Project 2012 which is (if i may
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> conflate the three)  a democratic, decentralised 'village' revolution
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> via self-organised Peoples Assemlbies throughout the country between
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> now and 2012. And from there it is but a short step to the alll
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> important issue in Amelia's blog about connecting agenda of Climate
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> Camp (direct action / consensus decision making) and Transition Towns
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> (decentralisation and new social relationships) as the means to heal
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> our relationship with the environment.
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> Can someone please take it upon themselves to get that message lopud
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> and clear out of the camp? Surely many would follow if we got the
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> messaging right (as I said, see below)
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> Unfortunately I think at present the camp is being dragged into the
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> long term Peace Strike / PSPC issues, putting quite unecessary
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> stresses on both of those groupings while at the same time losing
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> sight of its distinct agenda. There is absolutely no reason why they
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> can't and shouldn't co-exist but why mix the messages and muddy the
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> waters?
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> We need a clear, revolutionary and inclusive presence in the square
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> and we don't have that at the moment. Telling other groups they are
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> not radical enough, which is effectively what I saw happened yesterday
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> with the outreach attempts to the Take Back Parliament grouping, will
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> not help. Nor will the toleration of people coming in, drinking and
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> abusing (ie taking stuff meant for campers) from the kitchen, set up
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> by Maria which will only add to the stresses.
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> Sorry to be negative but the camp has enormous potential and a window
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> of opportunity to build it and inspire others with A CLEAR POLITICS
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> will not last for ever.
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> I may go down on Weds for the 7pm session - is there anyone else out
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> there from CRD / Project 2012 / EM or CfCA up for meeting @ 7pm that
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> eve, and getting the politics clearer that evening? I would be happy
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> to go if i knew a few others of like mind could do the same and we can
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> get a statement together with the consent of the camp.
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> Mark
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> Igor says:
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> May 9, 2010 at 3:12 am
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> Well, Amelia, one cannot do everything but if some grouping that has
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> the capabilities to do outreach (climate camp London perhaps) were to
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> come along to the Democracy village and do it, I for one would be
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> delighted.
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> Amelia says:
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> May 9, 2010 at 6:53 am
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> Hi Igor, thanks for the message – this post was written by Amelia
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> Wells, who to my knowledge has never been involved in Climate Camp.
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> Personally I wish I had the time for everything, but I don’t. My own
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> thoughts? Even though I think what you are doing is very commendable,
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> I think that the messaging of the Democracy Village is unclear. I
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> think there is too much focus on the war (clearly pissing Brian Haw
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> off big time) and not enough emphasis on clear alternative democratic
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> ideals. Plus there is no mention of climate change, which (although I
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> know most of you care about this too) would be a clear reason why more
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> people from Climate Camp have not come down, Amelia x
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> Taken from article @
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> http://www.ameliasmagazine.com/earth/theres-the-general-election-and-then-theres-democracy-village-in-parliament-square/2010/05/07
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> And from capitalist press: On Parliament Square, overlooked by Lloyd
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> George, the last Liberal to lead a coalition as prime minister, a
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> group of extreme environmental squatters have set up a tented village.
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> I am shown around by a sweet boy whom we’ll call David.
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> He takes me proudly to the new straw-bale lavatory (no solids) for
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> men: “When the straw is full, we’ll take it to St James’s Park and
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> spread it on the flowers. We haven’t got one for women yet.”
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> Another lad, whom we’ll call Nick, smells worse than the straw. “We’re
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> in a peaceful rebellion,” says David. “We want to set up a new nation
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> without money.”
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> Opposite him the great phoney gothic pile of the Palace of Westminster
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> stands blank and pompous and empty.
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> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7120771.ece
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