[Campaignforrealdemocracy] Update from Assembly Re: Fwd: [politicsandspiritnetwork] occupylsx: Saturday 22nd October: One-Week Birthday Celeberation

Fri Oct 21 16:31:40 UTC 2011

And the dirty tricks came as complete shock to you did they? Anyone who is only half awake could have predicted this unless they've been on a very long holiday in cloud cuckoo land. You must have been gobsmacked when Democracy Village was evicted? Even non-activists on twitter have been more aware of the likely outcome: 

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From: jmg <javier.mgbmav at gmail.com>
To: Alison Banville <alisonbanville at yahoo.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Update from Assembly Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Fwd: [politicsandspiritnetwork] occupylsx: Saturday 22nd October: One-Week Birthday Celeberation

In what sense inevitable? These are just dirty tricks by the 1%. Javie

El 21 Oct 2011, a las 16:30, Alison Banville <alisonbanville at yahoo.co.uk> escribió:

yep, it was inevitable, I still amazes me the naivety of some people, it was sensible to anticipate this for the long-term health of the occupation
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>From: Justin Baidoo-Hackman <justin.baidoo at yahoo.co.uk>
>To: jmg <javier.mgbmav at gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: Update from Assembly Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Fwd: [politicsandspiritnetwork] occupylsx: Saturday 22nd October: One-Week Birthday Celeberation
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>Hi all, 
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>I hate to say I told you so but: http://www.stpauls.co.uk/News-Press/Latest-News/Statement-from-the-Dean-of-St-Pauls-21-October
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>We need to get as many people down tonight as possible as the Police will be ready to "clean" the streets.
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>In solidarity
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>Justin
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>On 21 October 2011 15:10, jmg <javier.mgbmav at gmail.com> wrote:
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>It seems the good news have been short lived and St Paul's is now closing and asking the Indignes to leave. Any confirmation from someone at the camp? Javier
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>>El 20 Oct 2011, a las 21:35, marknbarrett at googlemail.com escribió:
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>>Cheers Javier ! "We discussed this at the Assembly today and there was no confirmation that this is a serious threat from whoever has been communicating with St Pauls people. In fact, they mentioned that revenue was higher than expected for this time of the year. There are some concerns regarding health and safety that might be used against us at some point.
>>>Javier"
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>>>From: Robin Smith <robinsmith3 at gmail.com> 
>>>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:19:29 +0100
>>>To: Alison Banville<alisonbanville at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>Cc: campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org<campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org>; Justin Baidoo-Hackman<justin.baidoo at yahoo.co.uk>; project2012 at googlegroups.com<project2012 at googlegroups.com>; democracyvillage at googlegroups.com<democracyvillage at googlegroups.com>; peopleincommon at lists.riseup.net<peopleincommon at lists.riseup.net>; Mark Barrett<marknbarrett at googlemail.com>; trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com<trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com>; campaignagainstfeesandcuts at googlegroups.com<campaignagainstfeesandcuts at googlegroups.com>; civilisation at lists.riseup.net<civilisation at lists.riseup.net>
>>>Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Fwd: [politicsandspiritnetwork] occupylsx: Saturday 22nd October: One-Week Birthday Celeberation
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>>>Are we going to build up LSX. Or knock them down?
>>>LSX asks why are the people not being represented and why the robbers are. 
>>>The protest is doing extremely well in making that question abundantly clear to the people already
>>>I can tell because I have spoken to 500 passers by in the past few days. These are mainstream folks, bankers, biz people, mudke classes on tge margin of poverty, who are saying 'YES, why is this?'
>>>Im astonished its still going and growing strongly. The major problem today is that we are running out of land for tents ironically.
>>>I detect jealousy in the responses here. Lets build them up instead. 
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>>>On 20 Oct 2011 20:50, "Alison Banville" <alisonbanville at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>>Totally agree, I tweeted the occupylsx account earlier asking what the ideas were for the eventuality of St Paul's largesse running out - which will be soon. There has to be a plan that, as Justin says, does not rely on being tolerated or patronised by influemtial institutions. This is urgent!
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>>>>From: Justin Baidoo-Hackman <justin.baidoo at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>To: Mark Barrett <marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>>>>Cc: civilisation at lists.riseup.net; peopleincommon at lists.riseup.net; campaignagainstfeesandcuts at googlegroups.com; democracyvillage at googlegroups.com; project2012 at googlegroups.com; campaignforrealdemocracy at lists.aktivix.org; trafalgar-square-assembly at googlegroups.com
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011, 19:32
>>>>Subject: Re: [Campaignforrealdemocracy] Fwd: [politicsandspiritnetwork] occupylsx: Saturday 22nd October: One-Week Birthday Celeberation
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>>>>Hi Mark and all,
>>>>I think it is fantastic that OccupyLSX has been able to maintain itself for almost a week now.
>>>>However there are troubling signs on the horizon, St Paul's cathedral is private property that is being occupied. The dean initially welcomed the protest but has already shared concerns about the site growing and how it has resulted in a loss of revenue for them. Some activists I have been told has advocated subsidising their loss of revenue, I think that idea is not only absurd but also incredibly naive. We cannot rely on the patronage of the Catholic church to sustain our movement neither should we subsidise them out of a misplaced notion of gratitude.
>>>>We need to find alternative sites including Paternoster Square, we should not look to be tolerated, we should demand legitimacy.
>>>>Until we have found sustainable and permanent ground to camp on, I fear planning celebrations is a bit premature.
>>>>In solidarity
>>>>Justin
>>>>On 20 Oct 2011 13:52, "Mark Barrett" <marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>Occupy the London Stock Exchange
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>>>>>http://occupylsx.org/
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>>>>>The Occupation by St Pauls Catherdal, in the heart of The City, is still
>>>>>going strong.  The occupation has spent the week structurally,
>>>>>logistically and politcally finding it's feet. Already there is a 24-hour
>>>>>kitchen running; 'Tent City University' running lectures and workshops;
>>>>>'Star-books Library'; A welcome team at the Info Tent; Working Groups from
>>>>>Outreach and Arts to Recycling and Media; and a General Assembly each
>>>>>evening at 7pm to discuss politics, why we're here and what we should do.
>>>>>The whole process forms a big experiment in Self-organising and Democracy,
>>>>>which has (at least so far!) been empowering, exciting and engaging for
>>>>>the masses. Everyone welcome to join!
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>>>>>Come down for an hour or a week; come to a workshops, an assembly or to a
>>>>>music jam, everone welcome, we are the 99%
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>>>>>There has already been a statement agreed on by the General Assembly.
>>>>>See here: http://occupylsx.org/?p=221
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>>>>>*Saturday 22nd October: One-Week Birthday Celeberation!*
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>>>>>There will be a one-week birthday celebration on Saturday which will see
>>>>>all kinds of activities from political engagement to comedy and
>>>>>entertainment. More information to follow.
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TownsendMark Mark Townsend 
Wonder how much pressure placed on St Paul's from Corporation of London, ostensibly a lobby grp for financiers #olsx
2 hours ago FavoriteUndo RetweetReplyRichardJMurphy Richard Murphy 
by lukeshore 
As I predicted St Paul's has put cash through the turnstiles ahead of its mission to the poor and oppressed. Please join #occupylondon
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