[Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at big green gathering

Thu Feb 12 10:44:12 GMT 2009

  the reason i'm keen on these luxuries is that it counteracts the oft 
repeated criticism that a sustainable life is a miserable one where 
we'll have to do without things - in fact it'll be better

but of course keep it doable - i think training and inspiration is 
perhaps more important and less of a practical challenge - i think neil 
is keen on arranging training?

i think LCS are doing something anyway, and this will be separate / extra?

CC style food is perhaps another good profit option as it is a key 
feature of the camp as well? plus badges and t shirts..

i'm def up for helping at BGG

James Holland

http://risingclevel.blogspot.com/

marina pepper wrote:
> I personally am dead set against showers saunas etc. Too much work. And 
> quite frankly if people can't spend a few days at a festival coping, 
> it's not our job to pander to their vanities.
> 
> Yep, there's nothing in James' "ideas" that weren't covered in the 
> original working group chat (no minutes ever produced or email list 
> produced).
> 
> Still not sure of numbers as I have no idea who is good, who is strong, 
> who can multi task and who is disciplined and will stay put rather than 
> wonder off.
> 
> I note also that now there is no mention of last chance saloon, there is 
> no suggestion of a bar. Isn't that the profit bit? Discuss
> 
> M
> xxx
> 
> 
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> *From:* Ben Hart <benhart33 at googlemail.com>
> *To:* cc-festivalsandfundraising at lists.aktivix.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 February, 2009 21:22:48
> *Subject:* Re: [Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at big 
> green gathering
> 
> Ok then..
>  
> Looks like we need a crash brain storm about what we want to happen. 
> James has already done some stirling work looking at an application for 
> Glasto (See below). I reckon we should thrash out what we'd like to do 
> at the BGG using this as a starting point.
>  
> Personally I think something like James' bigger idea below- using one 
> big marquee and organising it like one of the neighbourhoods at the camp:
>  
> Vegan Kitchen- making lunch and dinner for donations.
> Direct Action Training sessions in the afternoon.
> Talks/ Discussions based on the different themes of Climate Camp this 
> year after dinner, followed by some films (and maybe music?)
>  
> Not sure a sauna is needed though!!
>  
> I think a lot of talks/ training sessions will have already been 
> produced for the G20 event, and I'm sure structures will be being 
> re-obtained in preparation for the convergence. And it's obvious that 
> there's plenty of people who would like to volunteer to provide stuff to 
> the space, which could also be a good meeting point for lots of people 
> if you make it friendly enough.
>  
> If we create the space I'm sure it'll work fantastically...
>  
> What do people think?
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 2009/2/11 marina pepper <votepepper at yahoo.co.uk 
> <mailto:votepepper at yahoo.co.uk>>
> 
>     I have the BGG form. Am looking at it blankly cos we haven't had any
>     sort of discussion on what Climate Camp is doing on the road.
> 
>     I have ideas, but I'd hate to impose a benign dictatorship order on
>     a project I know so many want to be involved with.
> 
>     To start you off - is it a spin off of our pop up camp in the city?
>     Does it operate like a neighbourhood? Is it a marquee with a bar? A
>     forum? A vegan cafe? Are we doing training sessions? Consensus
>     debates? Do we need 10 peeps or 30 peeps? Are we offereing stuff for
>     kids? Older people?
> 
>     Answers soon as you like. I've spent last coupla days doing family
>     court nonsense. YUCK! I'm off to form mothers for justice.
>     Underpants please...
> 
>     M
>     xxx
> 
> /SMALL - minimum/
> /a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)/
> 
> /tea urn
> projector
> small pa
> solar panel
> bike generator
> batteries
> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
> food
> sink / water set up
> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
> chairs, cushions
> flags banners/
> /daily schedule/
> /4-5 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
> 5-7 training session or  workshop or film
> 7-8 dinner/
> /Kitchen - 12 person hours a day (4 people x 3 hours)
> running talks / films / training - 12phd  (4 people x 3 hours)
> outreach round the festival - 4phd  (2 people x 2 hours)/
> /28 hours X 5 days
> minimum 7 people 4 hours a day (with at least some of those doing a few 
> hours in the previous few days to set up)/
> /plus any outside speakers/
> /draft budget (very rough)/
> 
> /structures - 0 (i've got these)
> Audio visual equipment £200
> transport of staff and equipment £500
> power equipment £500
> workshop expenses £200
> Decoration of field  £500
> food  - £500
> Donation to climate camp £5000
> flyers - £200/
> /total £7,600/
> // 
> // 
> 
> /BIG  - Full scale/
> /outreach stall  (simple gazebo 3mx3m)
> a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)
> compost toilet (combined)
> sauna (4X4 m)
> tea urn
> projector
> small pa
> solar panel
> bike generator
> batteries
> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
> food
> sink / water set up
> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
> chairs, cushions
> flags banners/
> /daily schedule/
> /1-2 lunch
> 2-3 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
> 3-5 training session
> 5-7 workshop / film
> 7-8 dinner
> 8- booze/
> /Kitchen - 24 person hours a day (4 people x 6 hours)
> stall - 12 phd (2 people x 6 hours)
> running talks / films / training - 20phd  (4 people x 5 hours)
> outreach round the festival - 12phd  (2 people x 6 hours)
> bar 8 phd (2 people x 4 hours)/
> 
> /76 hours X 5 days
> minimum 20 people about 4 hours a day
> (with at least some of those doing a few hours in the previous few days 
> to set up)/
> /plus any outside speakers/
> /draft budget (very rough)/
> 
> /structures - £200 (compost toilet)
> Audio visual equipment £200
> transport of staff and equipment £1000
> power equipment £500
> workshop expenses £500
> Decoration of field  £1000
> food  - £1000
> booze - £500
> flyers - £300
> Donation to climate camp £5000/
> /total £10,000/
> 
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