[Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at big green gathering

[Ben Hart]

Yep. The LCS is doing it's own thing and won't be donating to Camp as it's
focusing on smaller, local projects. I think therefore that the vegan cafe
would be the best idea.





2009/2/12 james holland <james at dogmanet.org>

>  the reason i'm keen on these luxuries is that it counteracts the oft
> repeated criticism that a sustainable life is a miserable one where we'll
> have to do without things - in fact it'll be better
>
> but of course keep it doable - i think training and inspiration is perhaps
> more important and less of a practical challenge - i think neil is keen on
> arranging training?
>
> i think LCS are doing something anyway, and this will be separate / extra?
>
> CC style food is perhaps another good profit option as it is a key feature
> of the camp as well? plus badges and t shirts..
>
> i'm def up for helping at BGG
>
>
> James Holland
>
> http://risingclevel.blogspot.com/
>
> marina pepper wrote:
>
>> I personally am dead set against showers saunas etc. Too much work. And
>> quite frankly if people can't spend a few days at a festival coping, it's
>> not our job to pander to their vanities.
>>
>> Yep, there's nothing in James' "ideas" that weren't covered in the
>> original working group chat (no minutes ever produced or email list
>> produced).
>>
>> Still not sure of numbers as I have no idea who is good, who is strong,
>> who can multi task and who is disciplined and will stay put rather than
>> wonder off.
>>
>> I note also that now there is no mention of last chance saloon, there is
>> no suggestion of a bar. Isn't that the profit bit? Discuss
>>
>> M
>> xxx
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Ben Hart <benhart33 at googlemail.com>
>> *To:* cc-festivalsandfundraising at lists.aktivix.org
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 February, 2009 21:22:48
>> *Subject:* Re: [Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at big
>> green gathering
>>
>> Ok then..
>>  Looks like we need a crash brain storm about what we want to happen.
>> James has already done some stirling work looking at an application for
>> Glasto (See below). I reckon we should thrash out what we'd like to do at
>> the BGG using this as a starting point.
>>  Personally I think something like James' bigger idea below- using one big
>> marquee and organising it like one of the neighbourhoods at the camp:
>>  Vegan Kitchen- making lunch and dinner for donations.
>> Direct Action Training sessions in the afternoon.
>> Talks/ Discussions based on the different themes of Climate Camp this year
>> after dinner, followed by some films (and maybe music?)
>>  Not sure a sauna is needed though!!
>>  I think a lot of talks/ training sessions will have already been produced
>> for the G20 event, and I'm sure structures will be being re-obtained in
>> preparation for the convergence. And it's obvious that there's plenty of
>> people who would like to volunteer to provide stuff to the space, which
>> could also be a good meeting point for lots of people if you make it
>> friendly enough.
>>  If we create the space I'm sure it'll work fantastically...
>>  What do people think?
>>
>>
>>  2009/2/11 marina pepper <votepepper at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:
>> votepepper at yahoo.co.uk>>
>>
>>
>>    I have the BGG form. Am looking at it blankly cos we haven't had any
>>    sort of discussion on what Climate Camp is doing on the road.
>>
>>    I have ideas, but I'd hate to impose a benign dictatorship order on
>>    a project I know so many want to be involved with.
>>
>>    To start you off - is it a spin off of our pop up camp in the city?
>>    Does it operate like a neighbourhood? Is it a marquee with a bar? A
>>    forum? A vegan cafe? Are we doing training sessions? Consensus
>>    debates? Do we need 10 peeps or 30 peeps? Are we offereing stuff for
>>    kids? Older people?
>>
>>    Answers soon as you like. I've spent last coupla days doing family
>>    court nonsense. YUCK! I'm off to form mothers for justice.
>>    Underpants please...
>>
>>    M
>>    xxx
>>
>> /SMALL - minimum/
>> /a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
>> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
>> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)/
>>
>> /tea urn
>> projector
>> small pa
>> solar panel
>> bike generator
>> batteries
>> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
>> food
>> sink / water set up
>> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
>> chairs, cushions
>> flags banners/
>> /daily schedule/
>> /4-5 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
>> 5-7 training session or  workshop or film
>> 7-8 dinner/
>> /Kitchen - 12 person hours a day (4 people x 3 hours)
>> running talks / films / training - 12phd  (4 people x 3 hours)
>> outreach round the festival - 4phd  (2 people x 2 hours)/
>> /28 hours X 5 days
>> minimum 7 people 4 hours a day (with at least some of those doing a few
>> hours in the previous few days to set up)/
>> /plus any outside speakers/
>> /draft budget (very rough)/
>>
>> /structures - 0 (i've got these)
>> Audio visual equipment £200
>> transport of staff and equipment £500
>> power equipment £500
>> workshop expenses £200
>> Decoration of field  £500
>> food  - £500
>> Donation to climate camp £5000
>> flyers - £200/
>> /total £7,600/
>> // //
>> /BIG  - Full scale/
>> /outreach stall  (simple gazebo 3mx3m)
>> a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
>> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
>> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)
>> compost toilet (combined)
>> sauna (4X4 m)
>> tea urn
>> projector
>> small pa
>> solar panel
>> bike generator
>> batteries
>> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
>> food
>> sink / water set up
>> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
>> chairs, cushions
>> flags banners/
>> /daily schedule/
>> /1-2 lunch
>> 2-3 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
>> 3-5 training session
>> 5-7 workshop / film
>> 7-8 dinner
>> 8- booze/
>> /Kitchen - 24 person hours a day (4 people x 6 hours)
>> stall - 12 phd (2 people x 6 hours)
>> running talks / films / training - 20phd  (4 people x 5 hours)
>> outreach round the festival - 12phd  (2 people x 6 hours)
>> bar 8 phd (2 people x 4 hours)/
>>
>> /76 hours X 5 days
>> minimum 20 people about 4 hours a day
>> (with at least some of those doing a few hours in the previous few days to
>> set up)/
>> /plus any outside speakers/
>> /draft budget (very rough)/
>>
>> /structures - £200 (compost toilet)
>> Audio visual equipment £200
>> transport of staff and equipment £1000
>> power equipment £500
>> workshop expenses £500
>> Decoration of field  £1000
>> food  - £1000
>> booze - £500
>> flyers - £300
>> Donation to climate camp £5000/
>> /total £10,000/
>>
>>
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