[Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at big green gathering

Mon Feb 16 13:42:20 GMT 2009

Agree to all of these points. Do we know what the deadline is? Marina- can
we have an update please?

2009/2/14 <wildwoodsman at riseup.net>

> Hi All!
>
> Just back on the email loop.. so to chip in: I'm definitely up for
> organising nvda training at bgg. I think it would be good to keep the
> focus of this on the more experiential/practical side of things - so
> possibilities might be lock-ons (d-locks & tubes), tripods, blockades
> showing how to do it & maybe including role-plays so people get to have a
> go in a fun way too! If anyone's got more ideas or things they think would
> appeal to the festival going peeps I'd love to hear them!
> Also as far as the whole bgg set up... I agree with whats been said so far:
> vegan cafe
> space for people to hang out/discussions/workshops/talks etc
> we could have open-mic/music etc later on
> I personally would be keen to get a bicycle cinema going as this could be
> a good way to raise awareness of the wider issues/campaigns etc. For
> example we could show things like the rossport 2008 film, on the verge,
> and longer films like age of stupid, an inconvenient truth etc. this could
> be like a chill out type space where people can hang out with films etc
> showing on one wall... people can come & go.. wouldn't need to be like a
> formal cinema with times for showings etc (although we could do that too).
> Do we know when the deadline is for the bgg form?
> Also have we got a definitive list of the festivals we are going to? It
> would be good to thrash this out & maybe try and get an article or some
> promo stuff (for free obviously!) in things like festival eye and in the
> guides to festivals that newspapers do etc. to generate some interest & it
> would be good publicity for climate camp generally too!
> Cheers,
> Neil
>
> > Hello Marina.
> >
> > How's this going? Not to be really pushy but I think it's very important
> > to
> > get it done asap. I'm not sure how many people are on this list- is it
> > worth
> > sending it to a bigger list- e.g. networking?
> > * *
> > *Still not sure of numbers as I have no idea who is good, who is strong,
> > who
> > can multi task and who is disciplined and will stay put rather than
> wonder
> > off.*
> > I think it's best to work out exactly what we think needs to be done man
> > hour wise and then err on the side of caution. Although the camp may have
> > worked with people chipping in, a lot of work did fall to a few people
> who
> > would take things on. I think it's fairer to draw up a rota- make sure
> > everyone chips in, rather than expecting people just not to bother.
> >
> > Can we see the form? What exactly is needed- can we give in a rough idea
> > and
> > flesh it out nearer the time?
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ben.
> >
> > 2009/2/12 Ben Hart <benhart33 at googlemail.com>
> >
> >> Yep. The LCS is doing it's own thing and won't be donating to Camp as
> >> it's
> >> focusing on smaller, local projects. I think therefore that the vegan
> >> cafe
> >> would be the best idea.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/2/12 james holland <james at dogmanet.org>
> >>
> >>  the reason i'm keen on these luxuries is that it counteracts the oft
> >>> repeated criticism that a sustainable life is a miserable one where
> >>> we'll
> >>> have to do without things - in fact it'll be better
> >>>
> >>> but of course keep it doable - i think training and inspiration is
> >>> perhaps
> >>> more important and less of a practical challenge - i think neil is keen
> >>> on
> >>> arranging training?
> >>>
> >>> i think LCS are doing something anyway, and this will be separate /
> >>> extra?
> >>>
> >>> CC style food is perhaps another good profit option as it is a key
> >>> feature
> >>> of the camp as well? plus badges and t shirts..
> >>>
> >>> i'm def up for helping at BGG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> James Holland
> >>>
> >>> http://risingclevel.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>> marina pepper wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I personally am dead set against showers saunas etc. Too much work.
> >>>> And
> >>>> quite frankly if people can't spend a few days at a festival coping,
> >>>> it's
> >>>> not our job to pander to their vanities.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yep, there's nothing in James' "ideas" that weren't covered in the
> >>>> original working group chat (no minutes ever produced or email list
> >>>> produced).
> >>>>
> >>>> Still not sure of numbers as I have no idea who is good, who is
> >>>> strong,
> >>>> who can multi task and who is disciplined and will stay put rather
> >>>> than
> >>>> wonder off.
> >>>>
> >>>> I note also that now there is no mention of last chance saloon, there
> >>>> is
> >>>> no suggestion of a bar. Isn't that the profit bit? Discuss
> >>>>
> >>>> M
> >>>> xxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> *From:* Ben Hart <benhart33 at googlemail.com>
> >>>> *To:* cc-festivalsandfundraising at lists.aktivix.org
> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 February, 2009 21:22:48
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Cc-fests&FR] [climatecampprocess] [Fwd: workshops at
> >>>> big
> >>>> green gathering
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok then..
> >>>>  Looks like we need a crash brain storm about what we want to happen.
> >>>> James has already done some stirling work looking at an application
> >>>> for
> >>>> Glasto (See below). I reckon we should thrash out what we'd like to do
> >>>> at
> >>>> the BGG using this as a starting point.
> >>>>  Personally I think something like James' bigger idea below- using one
> >>>> big marquee and organising it like one of the neighbourhoods at the
> >>>> camp:
> >>>>  Vegan Kitchen- making lunch and dinner for donations.
> >>>> Direct Action Training sessions in the afternoon.
> >>>> Talks/ Discussions based on the different themes of Climate Camp this
> >>>> year after dinner, followed by some films (and maybe music?)
> >>>>  Not sure a sauna is needed though!!
> >>>>  I think a lot of talks/ training sessions will have already been
> >>>> produced for the G20 event, and I'm sure structures will be being
> >>>> re-obtained in preparation for the convergence. And it's obvious that
> >>>> there's plenty of people who would like to volunteer to provide stuff
> >>>> to the
> >>>> space, which could also be a good meeting point for lots of people if
> >>>> you
> >>>> make it friendly enough.
> >>>>  If we create the space I'm sure it'll work fantastically...
> >>>>  What do people think?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  2009/2/11 marina pepper <votepepper at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:
> >>>> votepepper at yahoo.co.uk>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    I have the BGG form. Am looking at it blankly cos we haven't had
> >>>> any
> >>>>    sort of discussion on what Climate Camp is doing on the road.
> >>>>
> >>>>    I have ideas, but I'd hate to impose a benign dictatorship order on
> >>>>    a project I know so many want to be involved with.
> >>>>
> >>>>    To start you off - is it a spin off of our pop up camp in the city?
> >>>>    Does it operate like a neighbourhood? Is it a marquee with a bar? A
> >>>>    forum? A vegan cafe? Are we doing training sessions? Consensus
> >>>>    debates? Do we need 10 peeps or 30 peeps? Are we offereing stuff
> >>>> for
> >>>>    kids? Older people?
> >>>>
> >>>>    Answers soon as you like. I've spent last coupla days doing family
> >>>>    court nonsense. YUCK! I'm off to form mothers for justice.
> >>>>    Underpants please...
> >>>>
> >>>>    M
> >>>>    xxx
> >>>>
> >>>> /SMALL - minimum/
> >>>> /a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
> >>>> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
> >>>> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)/
> >>>>
> >>>> /tea urn
> >>>> projector
> >>>> small pa
> >>>> solar panel
> >>>> bike generator
> >>>> batteries
> >>>> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
> >>>> food
> >>>> sink / water set up
> >>>> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
> >>>> chairs, cushions
> >>>> flags banners/
> >>>> /daily schedule/
> >>>> /4-5 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
> >>>> 5-7 training session or  workshop or film
> >>>> 7-8 dinner/
> >>>> /Kitchen - 12 person hours a day (4 people x 3 hours)
> >>>> running talks / films / training - 12phd  (4 people x 3 hours)
> >>>> outreach round the festival - 4phd  (2 people x 2 hours)/
> >>>> /28 hours X 5 days
> >>>> minimum 7 people 4 hours a day (with at least some of those doing a
> >>>> few
> >>>> hours in the previous few days to set up)/
> >>>> /plus any outside speakers/
> >>>> /draft budget (very rough)/
> >>>>
> >>>> /structures - 0 (i've got these)
> >>>> Audio visual equipment £200
> >>>> transport of staff and equipment £500
> >>>> power equipment £500
> >>>> workshop expenses £200
> >>>> Decoration of field  £500
> >>>> food  - £500
> >>>> Donation to climate camp £5000
> >>>> flyers - £200/
> >>>> /total £7,600/
> >>>> // //
> >>>> /BIG  - Full scale/
> >>>> /outreach stall  (simple gazebo 3mx3m)
> >>>> a small marquee (lightweight 'party tent' type 6x3m?)
> >>>> covered kitchen (3mx3m)
> >>>> outside kitchen area (3mx3m)
> >>>> compost toilet (combined)
> >>>> sauna (4X4 m)
> >>>> tea urn
> >>>> projector
> >>>> small pa
> >>>> solar panel
> >>>> bike generator
> >>>> batteries
> >>>> rocket stoves and other cooking equipment
> >>>> food
> >>>> sink / water set up
> >>>> perimeter signs / bunting / lights
> >>>> chairs, cushions
> >>>> flags banners/
> >>>> /daily schedule/
> >>>> /1-2 lunch
> >>>> 2-3 welcome meeting/intro to climate cmap
> >>>> 3-5 training session
> >>>> 5-7 workshop / film
> >>>> 7-8 dinner
> >>>> 8- booze/
> >>>> /Kitchen - 24 person hours a day (4 people x 6 hours)
> >>>> stall - 12 phd (2 people x 6 hours)
> >>>> running talks / films / training - 20phd  (4 people x 5 hours)
> >>>> outreach round the festival - 12phd  (2 people x 6 hours)
> >>>> bar 8 phd (2 people x 4 hours)/
> >>>>
> >>>> /76 hours X 5 days
> >>>> minimum 20 people about 4 hours a day
> >>>> (with at least some of those doing a few hours in the previous few
> >>>> days
> >>>> to set up)/
> >>>> /plus any outside speakers/
> >>>> /draft budget (very rough)/
> >>>>
> >>>> /structures - £200 (compost toilet)
> >>>> Audio visual equipment £200
> >>>> transport of staff and equipment £1000
> >>>> power equipment £500
> >>>> workshop expenses £500
> >>>> Decoration of field  £1000
> >>>> food  - £1000
> >>>> booze - £500
> >>>> flyers - £300
> >>>> Donation to climate camp £5000/
> >>>> /total £10,000/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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