[Cc-webedit] text alert system for swoop

Sat Jul 11 17:06:08 BST 2009

heya,
i'm cc'ing welcome at climatecamp.org.uk -- no idea if that account exists
or gets checked (i don't think swooping is illegal yet, but people who
are concerned can just refrain from the discussion, and i've removed
individual email addresses)

Could we have a meeting on the sunday of the gathering with spokes from
each nbhd, some peeps from site, comms, social networking.  I think a
big part of a successful swoop will be getting everyone welcomed and
involved into getting the site up and running quickly.

Note that I thought the land group was fine with a public swoop as
proposed&consented to a few months ago.  Can I suggest that land group
be contacted to:
- reaffirm whether they are down with the swoop
- and if so, give us any info they think we need to publicise e.g.
timing info and (if advisable) area info (probably not holding points,
but perhaps a few rough holding areas and times, and perhaps the rough
area info only gets released a day or two before)
- whether comms is up for it, re-launching the webpage for txt-alerts

also, can i suggest that something like the following gets emailed out
to the CC elist by process on Monday (to start people thinking, hype the
start of the camp, the gathering etc.).

===
Subject: Swooping into the Camp for Climate Action!

At this weekends gathering we will be planning how we will take the site
on August 27th for the opening of the camp for climate action in London.
Most likely, we will all be swooping in together and at the same time.
It promises to be an exciting and massive land occupation!  If they
haven't already done so, we strongly urge neighbourhoods to begin
thinking about mobilising for August 27th, and being ready to set up
their neighbourhood site quickly.  There will be space at the gathering
for spokes from each neighbourhoods to discuss the proposed swoop.

We will also be discussing the big coal action in the autumn and the
workshop programme for the camp.  There's already £400 in the travel
pool upfront, to help non-Londoners get to the gathering.  For details
see:  http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/gatherings

Love,
Process

alistair alexander wrote:
> i kinda think this discussion is straying into territory where email
> should probably be avoided.this is for quite important legal as well
> as security reasons.
> 
> richly ironic, i know, when discussing a techno coms group - but there we are.
> 
> ali
> 
> 2009/7/9 james holland <james at dogmanet.org>:
>> yep, this message was just to make sure we're ready to go when the time
>> comes
>>
>> although the swoop is already out there in the main flyer and on the front
>> page of the website:
>>
>> "This year we will set up the camp together, with a mass swoop of people
>> taking the site. Get down to London on the day before camp on 26 August and
>> be ready for the action to start at any time. Join us on facebook and sign
>> up to twitter and text updates to make sure you stay informed about plans."
>>> Is there a swoop technology/comms group ?
>> i kind of think the people who know about this stuff are probably to remain
>> secret as they are necesarily close to or part of the land group, i just
>> think we need need to know that they are in place.
>>
>> maybe we need a swoop group though, that includes people from all the
>> interested groups - what do process people think?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Anna <rudderism at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Wiggly hands to that. As far as i understand we are still awaiting
>>> confirmation from the land group that a swoop is feasible ?
>>>
>>> Until we have the word from them it seems unwise to actually start
>>> communicating with folk. However is a great idea to make sure we have the
>>> technology in place and a clear group of people who are responsible for
>>> making it work. This group needs to have a clear mandate from
>>> gathering/networking about what can and can't be said via this medium...
>>> afore we loose what little radical political messaging we have left !
>>>
>>> Is there a swoop technology/comms group ?
>>>
>>> xx
>>> --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Ben Palmer <palmer-san at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Ben Palmer <palmer-san at hotmail.co.uk>
>>> Subject: RE: [climatecampprocess] text alert system for swoop
>>> To: "CC James" <james at dogmanet.org>, gringoben at gmail.com,
>>> cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org, "CC Process list"
>>> <climatecampprocess at lists.riseup.net>, site at climatecamp.org.uk
>>> Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 12:40 PM
>>>
>>> Some concerns from me here,
>>>
>>> we really need to discuss the swoop and how it happens as a whole group,
>>> here are all the swoop decisions that have been made so far:
>>>
>>> -Immediately following the traditional closed group site take there will
>>> be a public swoop to the site.
>>> This will be part of the narrative and pre-publicity advertising the
>>> convergence. This is subject to land
>>> group concerns and capacity. CONSENSUS REACHED
>>> -Camp will begin on Thursday 27th and to end on Wednesday the 2nd.This
>>> includes a day at each end
>>> for week for the public to be involved in setup and tat down. CONSENSUS
>>> REACHED
>>>
>>> as the site group is currently looking at practicalities of setting the
>>> site up in a day, and the land group are assessing swoop concerns and
>>> doability too, i am reticent to just go ahead and start up a text service,
>>> especially given some of the major mis messaging coming out of texts and
>>> twitter in the past.
>>>
>>> by all means lay the groundwork, but as this is a part of our
>>> communication with the public, i'd be happier if it was agreed at a national
>>> gathering before empowering a small group to get on with it.
>>>
>>> righty then, sorry to be critical, just trying to ensure we don't rush in
>>> headfirst without involving people in process first...
>>>
>>> ben :)
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:07:06 +0100
>>>> From: james at dogmanet.org
>>>> To: gringoben at gmail.com; cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org;
>>>> climatecampprocess at lists.riseup.net; site at climatecamp.org.uk
>>>> Subject: [climatecampprocess] text alert system for swoop
>>>>
>>>> can someone send messages to the text alert system from April 1st, that
>>>> will be in the right place to send a message to it on aug 27?
>>>>
>>>> can we include the sign up for it or a link to it on the front page of
>>>> the website?
>>>>
>>>> (i am drafting text explaining the swoop and the text service on the
>>>> networking list, and this will be with the web group soon)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James Holland
>>>>
>>>> http://risingclevel.blogspot.com/
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