[Cc-webedit] swoop map
theinnercityhippy at riseup.net
theinnercityhippy at riseup.net
Tue Sep 29 13:28:37 BST 2009
If you go to www.openstreetmap.org there's a number of options for
exporting a map in different formats so it could be embedded as an image
whilst sorting something else out
> Hosting the map on our own server is outside my knowledge, and unlikely to
> be inside my knowledge in the timeframe, so I'll have to bow out.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl van Tonder" <carl at supervacuo.com>
> To: <david at vannen.com>; <cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] swoop map
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> My personal preference would be for openstreetmap (or NASA's satellite
> images) through OpenLayers due to the proprietary nature of Google as a
> service.
>
> Sadly, both Google and OpenLayers have the same problem - requests for map
> images of any line are (fairly sensibly from a performance point of view)
> all made through Javascript - i.e. directly to the map provider. This
> means
> that we have no control over access logs. One way around this would be to
> host our own map image (either Google's or someone else's) and serve it
> ourselves, accessing it through OpenLayers. A custom map layer like this
> is
> definitely possible, and would probably address our security issues,
> although I'm afraid that having suggested this I don't myself have time to
> do this early enough so as to be useful for the Swoop.
>
> It's not that much work (or technically complex) though, and _could_ be
> less
> work than an illustrated map.
>
> Hope this makes some sort of sense.
>
> Coal and riots,
> Carl
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] swoop map
> From: <david at vannen.com>
> Date: 29/09/2009 5:31 am
>
> <Ah, oops, that was a mis-type, didn't mean to send as-is.>
>
> Is there another service we can use, given the time frame?
>
> Is there a way of using Google maps without disclosing IP addesses, etc?
> Perhaps a way of Onion-Routing the map?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <david at vannen.com>
> To: <cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] swoop map
>
>
>>
>> I trust Jim Dog's judgemet re. security issues. Hence, as nice as I
>> believe a Google map may be, I can't go ahead if he thinks it's a risk.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <theinnercityhippy at riseup.net>
>> To: <cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cc-webedit] swoop map
>>
>>
>>>
>>> keep in mind that we need to host the map on our own server, ideally
>>> only
>>> accessible with an ssl connection and we need to avoid storing any
>>> cookie
>>> info from the users of this page.
>>>
>>> An external service like google maps really isn't suitable for this
>>> unless the map request is rerouted as coming from our server as we run
>>> the risk of users being identified by ip and winding up with so called
>>> evidence of conspiricy which we need to guard against. Remember, people
>>> need to trust that we have thought of this and are taking steps to
>>> minimise the risk or it could backfire badly.
>>>
>>> If the maps are stored and accessed from our server, we have the
>>> removeip
>>> apache mod running so it will look like all the requests have come from
>>> the localhost in the unlikely event of these application logs being
>>> seized
>>> (though ideally they should be pointed at /dev/null )
>>>
>>> feel free to message me off list if you need more advice
>>>
>>> solidarity
>>>
>>> jimdog
>>>
>>>> Sounds great David, go for it.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to seeing the results :)
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 21:01 +0100, david at vannen.com wrote:
>>>>> Unless somebody who's really in touch with with Google Maps would
>>>>> rather do it, I can take this on, and have it done by Tuesday eve.
>>>>> the
>>>>> basic map is a quick job, the overlays a bit longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree about the need for a printable map.
>>>>>
>>>>> DV
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Alistair Alexander
>>>>> To: cc-webedit at lists.aktivix.org
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:39 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Cc-webedit] swoop map
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's been a request for an interactive map of the Swoop to
>>>>> be put online.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that it would need to be more than a
>>>>> google map and would need to show:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Ratcliffe and surrounding area
>>>>> * Bloc starting points with big arrows showing
>>>>> suggested
>>>>> routes
>>>>> * Mouseover boxes detailing points of interest
>>>>>
>>>>> In the time available, it seems like a pretty tall order - do
>>>>> we know any web designer who might be able to do this (very
>>>>> quickly)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd suggest we also need a PDF map for printing out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alistair
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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