[Cc-webedit] [mediateam] RE: [climatecampoutreach] Re: blogging

Jon Leighton j at jonathanleighton.com
Sun Jun 20 16:01:32 UTC 2010


Hi all,

As the techie who implemented the current site and blog, I want you to
know that I have been following along with this conversation. I have a
bunch of proposals which I think will deal with a lot of the problems. I
haven't quite finished writing it up but will hopefully send it round in
the next 24 hrs.

Cheers,
Jon

On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 16:48 +0100, Alistair Alexander wrote:
> Yes - we always planned on developing the blogs on the current site
> but never really got it off the ground. so it's great if people  have
> the energy for that.
> 
> 
> On the technical side, the current blog on the site doesn't work
> particularly well - it's awkward to use and, as Simon says, it doesn't
> behave like a conventional  blog- in fact it's a series of normal
> website pages, masquerading as blog posts. 
> 
> 
> But i don't think it's a good idea to have a blog separate to the main
> site - this will create a lot of confusion and play havoc with Search
> Engine Optimisation. And it will make the current site appear even
> more static than it already is. We should be able to find a way for
> blogs to work better on the main site - either by improving the
> current blogging tool or embedding something like wordpress. And we
> should look at making it more prominent on the homepage.
> 
> 
> I think it's also not good to have one working group responsible for
> some of the website and another responsible for the other bits - that
> will get really messy. Obviously, there should be plenty of
> collaboration, particularly if there's more energy for this in the
> social media group, as there certainly seem to be - but content
> creation for the website requires some co-ordination, and by it's
> nature that would suggest it remains in one group.
> 
> 
> But I don't want to pour cold water on this - 'cos i really support
> the idea of more blogging......
> 
> 
> Alistair
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On 18 Jun 2010, at 19:34, Natalie Szarek wrote:
> 
> > I think at some point before Blackheath we had a discussion about
> > comments on blogs. I think we should have them, as long as they are
> > moderated according to clear guidelines. (eg, we won't block
> > comments which challenge the points that are made on the blog, but
> > if they are abusive we won't approve them).
> > 
> > Natalie
> > 
> > 
> > On 18 June 2010 10:06, Anyetta <applepeelings at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         Lots of people who blog as a way of publicising their work
> >         parallel blog on various different blogging sites (LJ,
> >         wordpress, blog etc) so that people who prefer to read blogs
> >         via a friends page or whatever can follow them without extra
> >         effort, putting a little thing at the side or wherever of
> >         each being like 'you can also follow us on [link]
> >         livejournal, [link] wordpress, [link] twitter, [etc etc], on
> >         on [link] our webpage.' so that people who find them by
> >         chance can follow in the way most convenient. 
> >         
> >         Might be worth doing that - people who regularly check the
> >         site can still just read updates on the site can carry on
> >         doing that; people who'd like to but never really get round
> >         to typing in the url, but might read if they could have it
> >         drip-fed via their own blog's friends page, can read it
> >         however else. Just needs someone to take on responsibility
> >         for making sure stuff gets duplicated.
> >         
> >         
> >         
> >         
> >         On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:17 AM, simon collister
> >         <simon_collister at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >         
> >                 
> >                 Coolio
> >                 
> >                 See below for some immediate responses. Other
> >                 feedback welcome....
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 >> I'm not sure which list it makes sense to take it
> >                 forward on - I guess social media, but perhaps
> >                 people from all these lists should get in touch with
> >                 Simon if they're interested in being involved? 
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 I guess social media; possibly the web team (but see
> >                 below for clarification) and possibly the media
> >                 team. My initial thoughts are justified by the
> >                 following:
> >                 
> >                 - social media: most likely (but not exclusively)
> >                 the people creating blog content and proactively
> >                 contacting other bloggers. At the very least a
> >                 touchpoint for the blog.
> >                 - web team: possibly for user set-up but I know some
> >                 people already have blog access so if resources are
> >                 limited maybe crack on were possible providing
> >                 webedit team are happy
> >                 - media team:  also likely to be
> >                 creating/re-purposing content and sharing stuff for
> >                 the editorial calendar; also necessary fro signing
> >                 -off posts. So maybe individuals not on the SM list
> >                 and wanting to get involved join the SM list
> >                 otherwise media team list is pinged to get sign-off
> >                 
> >                   
> >                 >> Also are you talking about a Media Team Google
> >                 Doc? Or actually I guess one you haven't set up yet.
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 I was thinking of just creating one, but happy to
> >                 feed into one if it already exists
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 >> The main question for me about the blog
> >                 functionality on our site is whether it's really
> >                 identifiable as a blog? It doesn't have comments, I
> >                 don't know if it has trackback (whatever that is),
> >                 it doesn't have easysharing via social media etc.
> >                 The first step is definitely to set ourselves up so
> >                 we can be regularly putting out content, but we need
> >                 to work out how to get this stuff to be part of it
> >                 as well. Also, it's kind of buried in the bottom
> >                 corner of the site. I think this makes sense to some
> >                 extent as our website is mainly a billboard to get
> >                 people to come to our events (as opposed to eg. the
> >                 Plane Stupid website which is essentially a blog)
> >                 but I wonder if we should have a semi-separate site
> >                 for the blog, which has its own identity and
> >                 homepage?
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 Um. Yes. All valid and raised previously :) I don;t
> >                 think we have time or resource to chnage this now.
> >                 As a very basic point if we could make two small
> >                 changes to make great steps forward it would be
> >                 allowing comments and homepage visibility. But
> >                 I'mhappy to work with what we've got.
> >                 
> >                   
> >                 
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