[g8-sheffield] Re: [ssf] To agree a specific statement of non-violence

[Chris Malins]

I don't really see how the statement could be construed to exclude 
legitimate self-defense, or how that is important. I hardly see us 
standing by arguing semantics wghile some poor sod gets the shit kicked 
out of him. Neither would it do any good to hassle the group into an 
explicit statement of support for anything that in practise individuals 
would not do. This sort of ridiculous finnicky discussion is exactly 
what I had hoped we could avoid. I think that its pretty clear that 
several people are explicitly unhappy with supporting any violent 
actions, and therefore such actions will not receive any support from 
the G8-Sheffield group. This is the point, and we need to move on and 
start organising.

Chris

Dave Havard wrote:
>  > 1) To agree a specific statement of non-violence. "The Sheffield G8
> 
>> > group stands in opposition to the inhuman actions carried out in our
>> > names by the G8 governments. We set ourselves against the open
>> > violence of war or the hidden violence of destroying civil liberties
>> > and enforced poverty. We will support in any way we can, any action,
>> > by any group, about and against the G8, as long as this is done in a
>> > spirit of non-violence to achieve aims consistent with our
>> > philosophy."
>>
>> 2 problems arisen. The statement of non-violence could eventually be 
>> considered for revision, provided the last sentence is altered. As it 
>> is worded, it was felt to exclude self-defense and looks to ambiguous.
>>
> How about :
> "...........in a spirit of respect for all people. "
> 
> Peace,
> Dave
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